Oh boy, another VA synth. This time from Waves!

[mellotronaut]

he does the job best without photoshop:

[metalifuxx]

I just scrolled through 9 pages of text, and not a single Jordan Rudess Photoshop job! Come on, people, get with the program!

oh, if you insist....

[Sendy]

I just scrolled through 9 pages of text, and not a single Jordan Rudess Photoshop job! Come on, people, get with the program!

oh, if you insist....

The one that got away?

[Johnny!]

I think waves should win an award for this. There is literally nothing else like this in the plugin world. And that waves sound, man it makes me cream my pants.

[/sarcasm mode off]

I hope you go under guys

This.

The only reason this synth stands a chance is because it is produced by Waves.

And that.




Call me hater, but if it wasnt develeoped by Waves, the topic would hardly reach 3 pages. Because thats what it's worth.

Say the guys who did not even try it ....

Judging books by covers.

Because it's not 1999, and it's not like I'm being presented with a synth from the future that will blow my head off with quality. I've heard and own enough top notch VSTi's, most of which are far superior feature wise and with no worse sound quality, to know that this one won't surprise me.

No offence to anyone's beliefs, but I really don't believe that there is much to improve in sound quality nowadays (emulations can emulate better naturally, but "standalone" projects - I don't think so) so for me - it's either some built-in extraordinary fx (not your usual delay reverb etc stuff) or stand-out gui - you get the point. Waves Element has neither of it. Not gonna waste my time installing the demo and risking it will break my One Knob freebie due to the stupid shell dll system.

[osiris]

I'd be interested, but after my install experience on Win 7...
I'd also like to know about cpu hit because CLA Effects murdered my quad core (and even 5 instances of Omnisphere won't do that....)

[VitaminD]

Say the guys who did not even try it ....

Judging books by covers.

But we didn't judge the book only by its cover.

We judged the book by its cover, company produced synopsis, and sample reading.

That said, I went the distance and navigated their website, logged into their website, downloaded the v9 pack, installed the demo, logged into the licenser, and licensed the demo. I have to say, after all of that hassle, I'm still not in want-to-buy mode. It sounds better to me than the video demo, but is still rather underwhelming. The GUI is small and cramped, the effects section is too simplistic and I'm not sure what I'm getting over a host of other more established VAs on the market for the same price or less.

I think it might work if it was marketed as a beginner's synth and bundled with one of the (lesser priced) Musician's Bundles maybe..

[osiris]

Licensed the demo. You lost me right there.......................

[osiris]

BTW - who the frack is Jordan Rudess????
(I don't get out much)

[metalifuxx]

I just scrolled through 9 pages of text, and not a single Jordan Rudess Photoshop job! Come on, people, get with the program!

oh, if you insist....

The one that got away?

Even though I feel bad doing that. I met him after a Dream Theater concert once, he was the nicest sincere humble talkative guy of the bunch (Well James and Johnny (Myung) were too but not as much as Jordan). He was inquisitive of me and my friends about instruments we played, music we liked or if we had any recorded music/demos he could listen to while on the tour bus. He gets this reputation for seeming like a douchey keyboard wanker, but he is just so passionate and enthusiastic about his music and the instruments he uses, it just comes off that way. I'd be doing cheesy endorsements like that too if I was on his level.

[ras.s]

I hope they pay xoxos some royalty for the name.

[sin night]

Judging from the demo songs, it seems a nice synth that should fit easy in a mix... I'm tempted to compare it to Synth1 (no sarcasm here, I think they have both the same strenghts: easy to mix sound and very straightforward gui).

I'm not going to bother to demo it as I already have more than enough synths, but I think there are reason for a synth like this to exist.
Maybe I could consider it if I sell a few things while it is still on introductory price (though it's very hard to decide what softwares could leave my setup), but I don't rush at all to get it...

[Lotuzia]

Say the guys who did not even try it ....

Judging books by covers.

But we didn't judge the book only by its cover.

We judged the book by its cover, company produced synopsis, and sample reading.

That said, I went the distance and navigated their website, logged into their website, downloaded the v9 pack, installed the demo, logged into the licenser, and licensed the demo. I have to say, after all of that hassle, I'm still not in want-to-buy mode. It sounds better to me than the video demo, but is still rather underwhelming. The GUI is small and cramped, the effects section is too simplistic and I'm not sure what I'm getting over a host of other more established VAs on the market for the same price or less.

I think it might work if it was marketed as a beginner's synth and bundled with one of the (lesser priced) Musician's Bundles maybe..

I wasn't refering to you VitaminD.

There are some simple synths I like, like Korg Polysix, or ImpOscar( the first ). And there are other simple synths praised by many people. After all, if the sync is good on this Element synth, and it you can lock the oscillators and have freerunning as well, well all synths dont have that.

I think that the sound is much more important than the GUI, -sound stays on your track, and is what you hear when you play, not the GUI -, but I agree that a great GUI is important, and that the UI, wich is heavily tied to the GUI, is also a matter, as it affects workflow.

Thats also my answer to you, Technik, and thanks for answering me : Some simple synths do sound good, and the success of HW units like the Minibrute tends to suggest the idea that people can still be interested into those ones. I really dont know if in this matter Element sounds different, interesting, or less, and if their VA trademark is worth it. And .... I wont know it before I play with it.

And thanks for taking the time + care to actually demo it VitaminD. This IS real information.

[dexterbella]

... but the world does not need another VA!

That would have been my opinion until about a month ago when I first tried D16's LuSH-101. This is a new VA synth as well, but not one I would like to part with. I'm not arguing that Elements is anything special, but LuSH-101 really is, and disproves this assertion, IMO.

LuSH is a bit special imho and so is Synth Squad. I recently added these to my arsenal and, along with OP-X Pro and TAL-UNO-LX, this means I've got VA pretty much covered. This lacklustre effort from Waves, or any other VA, is unlikely to get my money any time soon - I have that box well and truly ticked.

[Uncle E]

Because it's not 1999, and it's not like I'm being presented with a synth from the future that will blow my head off with quality. I've heard and own enough top notch VSTi's, most of which are far superior feature wise and with no worse sound quality, to know that this one won't surprise me.

Couldn't you say a similar thing about DIVA if you didn't try it?

No offence to anyone's beliefs, but I really don't believe that there is much to improve in sound quality nowadays

I'd like to find something that matches DIVA's sound quality but uses significantly less processing power.

[Sendy]

I'd like to find something that matches DIVA's sound quality but uses significantly less processing power.

Can't see that happening in all honesty. What WILL happen is computers will get quickly to the point where Diva doesn't tax them. Analog modelling like any physical process modelling simply requires a lot of complexity and brute force to achieve realistic results.