omnisphere! criky damn this synth is just no words awesome.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
so if we cancel out the common denominator of limited programability, then we are left with whether you like the omnisphere library and whether you can get comparable libraries in kontakt for better value.BBFG# wrote: If I'm to buy a synth such as this for the price that it is, programming is extremely important, otherwise, I'm better off just buying sample sets for Kontakt
as far as i can tell, to cover the diversity that omnisphere provides you will need to spend far more money on much more content. of course, omnisphere doesn't cover all these bases in depth, but that is likely the key to it's success - that it offers such a lot of diversity within one library. for the target market, it really is a great way of getting certain types of sound without investing in entire libraries
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
it goes aroud and around because you intend it to. again, why don't you ask himalaya to answer some of your questions regarding the deeper aspects of programming omnisphere ??BBFG# wrote:And around and around it goes. It's not a sphere, it's a bubble.
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
i, for one, won't ever ask him in similar circonstance just because i would be way too afraid to face the depth of my ignoranceel-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:it goes aroud and around because you intend it to. again, why don't you ask himalaya to answer some of your questions regarding the deeper aspects of programming omnisphere ??BBFG# wrote:And around and around it goes. It's not a sphere, it's a bubble.
But please dont spread the word, my amour-propre wouldn't survive to the fact, i'm afraid !
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- KVRAF
- 20762 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
BBFG# wrote:And still nothing concerning the actual workings of the synth. Makes me wonder if any of the owners ever get past the first edit page where it is basically a rompler.

Here you've got the basic layer when using a sample source. Fairly rudimentary stuff.

Here you've got that same basic layer but this time with a synthesized oscillator. Again, fairly rudimentary stuff, although it's worth noting the different synthesis types available.

Here you've got the more in-depth editing of envelopes.

Here you've got the mod matrix.

Here you've got the effects page, which does make up a rather large part of Omnisphere's charm.
All-in-all, you've got a well-rounded synth with an exceptional built-in sample library (I can't think of a rompler that bests it as a complete package, though HALion Sonic offers more variety and Mach Five has some better sounds), a good selection of synthesis methods and filter types (similar to HALion Sonic), above average envelopes, above average modulation capabilities, and above average effects (similar to HALion Sonic and SampleTank 3). I didn't include images of its preset browser because I don't think you're interested in that but it's again above average. Personally, I think the synthesis algorithms could stand to be upgraded, that aspect of it sounds similar to other synths of its era and not up to par with DIVA, LuSH-101, et al.
Feature-wise, I guess the closest competitor to Omnisphere is HALion Sonic and then it just comes down to personal preference. The full HALion 5 is a great option for someone who wants a lot of synthesis capabilities together with an expandable library.
btw, you can browse through more images on our site, we've got 18 total which I think is more than you'll find on Spectrasonics' site:
http://www.jrrshop.com/spectrasonics-omnisphere-1-5
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
I intend to keep an open mind and make my decision on whether or not to buy it based on experience and knowledge of the instrument rather than emotionalism and product religiosity.
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
BTW are they as implicitly suggested sometimes, any scientologist among spectrasonic's crew ?BBFG# wrote:I intend to keep an open mind and make my decision on whether or not to buy it based on experience and knowledge of the instrument rather than emotionalism and product religiosity.
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Seems to be, there is a definite similarity in the dialogue.Krakatau wrote:BTW are they any scientologist among spectrasonic's crew ?BBFG# wrote:I intend to keep an open mind and make my decision on whether or not to buy it based on experience and knowledge of the instrument rather than emotionalism and product religiosity.
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
- KVRAF
- 20762 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
I hate to break it to you but there isn't much to it than that. If it's not what you're looking for, why not just move on?BBFG# wrote:You're still blurbing. I've actually got that far on my own at the stores I have been able to demo it at.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
seems the only thing stopping you from actually fielding your questions to people with more experience programming omnisphere is that it would stop you from declaring how weird threads get when someone like yourself dares to show an interest in anything other than what the hordes are using it for. that, and being able to infer religious fanaticismBBFG# wrote:Seems to be, there is a definite similarity in the dialogue.Krakatau wrote:BTW are they any scientologist among spectrasonic's crew ?BBFG# wrote:I intend to keep an open mind and make my decision on whether or not to buy it based on experience and knowledge of the instrument rather than emotionalism and product religiosity.
apparently, now you DO know there is more to it than the front page. so, you have spent all this time with omnisphere and still can't work it out. i guess you are not quite the afficionado you think you are
you are the one whio keeps spinning this round and round. everyone else seems quite clear and level-headed about the fact that omnisphere has a very capabale synth engine (but likely not strong enough to stand on it's own) and a great library (IF the sound design appeals to you), but you are so invested in the notion that all omnisphere owners are zealots, irrational, and perhaps trying to justify and convince themselves out of some kind of buyer remorse…erm, yeah, ok then
this is not the rompler you are looking for…move along
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 17994 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
BBFG# wrote:I intend to keep an open mind and make my decision on whether or not to buy it based on experience and knowledge of the instrument rather than emotionalism and product religiosity.
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
As far as the sample library in Omni, there are many that can be found in others and so for the most part, samples are not its strongest suit in buying it, therefore, back to actual synthetic methods of processing are.
To give an example, Roland does their sample thing, yet I only like what they do with them in EA and APS which breaks them free of that 'Roland Sample Philosophy' (truncated and compressed). They same questions are therefore appropriate for Spectra.
So how is it's granular engine and spectral engine different or even superior to others on the market are things that would be more helpful to me. Not blanket statements, but actual use in application. Those interest me far more than its sample set or VA method.
To give an example, Roland does their sample thing, yet I only like what they do with them in EA and APS which breaks them free of that 'Roland Sample Philosophy' (truncated and compressed). They same questions are therefore appropriate for Spectra.
So how is it's granular engine and spectral engine different or even superior to others on the market are things that would be more helpful to me. Not blanket statements, but actual use in application. Those interest me far more than its sample set or VA method.
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- KVRAF
- 9111 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
I know that's not true. I got further at NAMM with it when there. Unfortunately, it seem to scare the Ilio rep that I was on that page, so I didn't take it any further.Uncle E wrote:I hate to break it to you but there isn't much to it than that. If it's not what you're looking for, why not just move on?BBFG# wrote:You're still blurbing. I've actually got that far on my own at the stores I have been able to demo it at.
