Apple Acquires Camel Audio

[PatchAdamz]

Unless ot was a hostile take over i really dont get why apple is evil etc.

They were pelted with small sour green apples...

[aMUSEd]

To the people owning Alchemy: Is it comparable to Steinberg's Halion? Like, would it be an additional argument to buy Logic if they shipped it with it? Maybe they ship Logic with it, and then sell additional sounds for it through their web store.

Not on its own, although it does some things that Halion doesn't go anywhere near (spectral and additive), Halion is the better sampler with somewhat more powerful granular features too. But the combo of Alchemy, EXS and Redmatica tech could make for something awesome, if they added some of the physical modelling features of Sculpture to the possibilities are mindblowing.

Keep dreaming

It makes sense. And I very much doubt it was money alone that tempted the Camel crew, they would be far more interested in developing further their products. But obviously you like to feel you have a crystal ball

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Why would Apple not continue to sell the original Alchemy to PC users?

maybe, as i suspect, the engines will end up broken down to be reassembled in a logic supersampler (along with the redmatica features), and there will be no 'alchemy' left to sell

Are you REALLY convinced they will create a "supersampler" to include in Logic?

THAT would be a surprise to me.

putting aside the emoticon that suggests you might be joking, why not ??

the exs24 is way overdue for an overhaul, and more than just it's gui. maybe they are taking cues from steinberg, with cubase including HALion and padshop tech, and buying in one of the best suited teams for the task. it makes sense, when you think about them having already bought out redmatica.

while many believe they just killed off redmatica, the auto sampling features have already made it into mainstage

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/02/a ... -software/

No, it was you who were joking. And argumenting with the auto-sampling feature, when Redmatica main product was a very powerful sample editor and instrument builder, started exactly for EXS 24, none of which appeared after that, very well supports my case.

I agree that exs24 needs an overhaul, but considering they even didn't bother revising their bread and butter plug-ins for a very long time (they revised the EQ after launching Logic 9, and now the compressor, and that's all they did in about five years), and that the last instrument big launch was Sculpture and the Ultrabeat drum machine (which is also in need of an overhaul) in the already distant year of 2004 (Logic Pro 7), considering also that Retro Synth is nothing else than a repackaging of the ES2 synth engine with a simplified skin, you will reach the same conclusion - A "supersampler" for Logic is not likely to appear, simply because that's not what the target market of Logic (in the POV of Apple) wants - they want simple, ready made instruments, not "superduper" pieces of gear.

A "supersampler" bult-in in Logic would be a waste, nevertheless

Not that I don't think it deserves - Logic is a superb music tool, and deserves everything, but I don't see Apple taking much care of it, or that particular market. That's why this buyout is even more surprising.

clearly, apple are updating logic plugs...just one at a time.

i don't see why logic is not part of the target market for a supersampler. lot's of people seem to find it a creative playground. i guess you don't want a alchemy/redmatica-fused sampler in logic, but i do. i am not going to guess which of us is a better marker for the general trend of the logic-using market, but i am willing to bet that the vast majority of people WOULD love logic to end up with a mach5/halion/redmatic- like über-sampler

and just because the auto-sampling feature is th only thing to appear so far, doesn't mean that is going to be it

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

fork you crApple! seriously if this is true.

if you really feel justified in blaming anyone, then blame camelaudio. not that i think that is justified either, but you can't blame apple for making such a move. camel could have always have said "no"

[Teksonik]

Oh well good for Ben and the rest of CA. Everyone has their price and I'm sure all of us would have sold out as well......no one can take the moral high ground.

Alchemy is one of the finest soft synths ever created and luckily should continue work on PCs for at least the foreseeable future. We got what we paid for and no product is guaranteed to work forever. We can't really be angry but I think we are allowed to be disappointed if there will be no future development on the PC platform.

But as mentioned before who's next ? When you buy a new plugin do you have to think in the back of your mind will this developer be bought out by Apple as well ? Will it become Mac only ? There's that unsettling feeling that CA could just be the start.......

So to Apple who I'm sure could not care less.......if you think buying up all the great music software and making it Mac only will force PC user to buy one of your overpriced underpowered computers think again.

Anyway good luck to the Ben and all at the former CA. I hope your new corporate overlords will treat you well because as we all know giant corporations always treat their line level employees fairly......

[trimph1]

Whatever is available to whinge about will do.
This is KVR after all, where whingers roam freely.

And where whingers about whinging whingers can roam as well...

[BITWORD]

Didn't they get Redmatica too?

Yup-

[trimph1]

Didn't they get Redmatica too?

Yup-

And e-magic.

Which is why fear and paranoia is becoming the "in thing" here.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[fedexnman]

Maybe they can release OSX for PC users next isn't there market mainly been iPod , iPhone iPad . Has there computer sales gotten any better ? My opinion Windows 10 is going to dent the heck out of Apple's computer sales..

[Teksonik]

well there you go, i was right

Hmm i am starting to think maybe spectrasonics bought camel.

[penguinfromdeep]

;D

[Teksonik]

There are two groups of people I want to smack the crap out of now........

1. See I told you so I was right Ha Ha

2. I knew something all along but couldn't say anything

[Daags]

while many believe they just killed off redmatica, the auto sampling features have already made it into mainstage

interesting use of the word 'already' ....'already' as in three years after the buyout and cessation of redmatica sales/support/activity for a vastly, vastly, vastly crippled hint at what the redmatic apps were. in mainstage/logic. bodes well it does not.

[aMUSEd]

while many believe they just killed off redmatica, the auto sampling features have already made it into mainstage

interesting use of the word 'already' ....'already' as in three years after the buyout and cessation of redmatica sales/support/activity for a vastly, vastly, vastly crippled hint at what the redmatic apps were. in mainstage/logic. bodes well it does not.

I don't see a problem, Redmatica tech only deals with the sample management and instrument creation side, but if they decided that it would be stupid to just update that but leave the EXS as it was then you can see where acquiring a product like Alchemy might come in.