XILS StiX - New drum machine coming?

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fisherKing wrote:i know, for myself, i need to get my hands on something, use it in context with the music i make, to really know if it's gonna work for me...or not (so am looking forward to this being released)...
Nothing to add. StiX tries to adapt to your workflow and needs/desires of the moment. It can be dead simple to operate, and can also become very complex/powerfull, but only if you need/desire it. But well, you'll see by yourself with the demo if it's for you. Or less.
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sinkmusic wrote:Hi, Lotuzia
The Clay and Bronze demo sounds great. Looking forward to hearing/seeing more :)
Thanks. I have build dozens of *drumpads* ( Drum sounds presets) with ready made Macros Functions. and each one also have its own Step Modulations ready for everyone to muse with them.
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I would be curious to listen to more "empty" demos, focusing on one single tweaked sound evolving over time, like a cymbal, or a percussion...
But i'm not in a hurry ;)
I hope the workflow will be good, and that the GUI will be uncluttered.

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Lotuzia wrote:
do_androids_dream wrote:
Krakatau wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Here's a sequence line made in 7 mouse clicks with StiX.

Drumpad ClayDrumWT



Here another simple drumpad playing a standard 4/4 bar.

StiX Drumpad Bronze Age
:o

...This is f**king STUNNING !!!!
Do you really think so?! None of the examples posted sound out of the ordinary to me. They do a nice impersonation of analog - but none of the weight and physicality I hear from any of my analog boxes.
Well, a few pages ago I posted a draft *d'n'b* demo where someone said it reminded him of the Vermona DRM ( Analog Drum Machine ). The two drumpads examples above are sample based. The 1rst is a sound I sampled from a wavetable synth, and the second is just a cymbal. StiX can sound very diverse. With some drumpads, I tried the last days to make it sound like a Buchla -sometimes- sounds. And well, the vibe was somewhat there. And yes, I think it can sound analog in a very convincing way, though not trying to strictly mimic any precise ancester. Don't forget none of the audio demos are processed : No comps, no EQ, no nothing, and everything thru the stereo output. Also, whatever the synthesis engines used, virtual analog or others, StiX can give *life* to anything very easily and quickly, and will allow you to write and perform very complex rythms if you wish so. It's a very addictive instrument. At least for me.
Yeah I listened to those earlier demos - both at very loud and at very low volumes - low volume listening can be very revealing - and I just get the vibe I get from a lot of other software - it does a good impersonation of the 'sound' of analog but it doesn't have the weight, punch, 'feel' - it's just not there. This probably won't make it any less of a sound source for most users but drums are something that has to inspire me right from the get go - I don't want to be tooling around with comps and eq's on electronic sourced drums. I don't have to do any processing to my analog drum sources - kicks sound round and chunky without having to process the crap out of them, snares sound creamy and snappy without compression - you see where I'm going. I don't even know if I really should be posting in this thread 'coz I'm a grumpy elitist when it comes to analog gear.. lol. I remember an autechre track where they used microtonic... before I even knew that - and I'd just heard the cd - I already knew I didn't like the drums on a particular track because they sounded really flat and lifeless - it was only a few years later I read a forum conversation where they were talking to the dev - and it all slotted into place. So, I trust my ears :D
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whatever else is true...listeners don't care about the sources (analog, digital, synths, samples, etc), only the music-makers stress over these things. besides, you can: eq, compress, distort, effect, whatever...a sound source. so anything is changeable. i won't judge this until i USE it...only way to find out if it works (for me)...or not.
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TheoM wrote:Hope it's layed out better than the disappointing heartbeat. That's another one that takes one core for just a kick drum and sounds just average. How's cpu on stix?
It depends on the number of drumpads used.

But fully loaded (10 drumpads with lots of modulations) it never exceeds the CPU charge of an average 6 notes polyphonic patch -without unison- on any Xils-Lab synthesizer. It should not be any problem for anybody with a standard *modern* processor -as I see it-. So, not especially light, but very acceptable regarding nowadays's benchmarks.
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Krakatau wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Here's a sequence line made in 7 mouse clicks with StiX.

Drumpad ClayDrumWT



Here another simple drumpad playing a standard 4/4 bar.

StiX Drumpad Bronze Age
:o

...This is f**king STUNNING !!!!
Thanks.

Another "drumpad" clip.

StiX Drumpad TomHi HybridModulo
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Lotuzia wrote:
Another "drumpad" clip.

StiX Drumpad TomHi HybridModulo
Sounds nice. :tu:
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Numanoid wrote:StiX Announced:
StiX is our next instrument.

More to come very soon ...
That was 6 weeks ago, still no screenshot of the GUI, what the launch price will be, date of availability ?

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Numanoid wrote:That was 6 weeks ago, still no screenshot of the GUI, what the launch price will be, date of availability ?
Yeah, at least a screenshot, for us heavily teased drum synth afficionados :hihi:
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stardustmedia wrote:
Numanoid wrote:That was 6 weeks ago, still no screenshot of the GUI, what the launch price will be, date of availability ?
Yeah, at least a screenshot, for us heavily teased drum synth afficionados :hihi:
You mentioned a possible 'release by xmas' .... surely the GUI must be finalised sufficiently by now to release a screenshot :?

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Well, it doesnt work exactly like this. At least at Xils. We're working from day one with a -more and more- functional version, whose global GUI/Feel is rather close to the prototype I submitted to Xils. Not very smart, but enough to work and cook hundreds of expressive drumpads until now. As I understand it, the final GUI will also be the final point before release of the public version. I had some screenshots from various parts of the final GUI. It's very clean and sober, and meets all my expectations, but well everyone will have to make his/her own idea about that. And yes, the first public version *should* be released before Xmas. And people *should* be able to get it at a more than fair price : Around the 99 $-€ mark.

So StiX works, as you can hear, all functions are patiently debugged, refined and sometimes improved, and the GUI is now in *fast* progress. Drumpads, drumkits, sequences, patterns are continuously added as well. I still think that sound examples are the most important part, and, anyway, they have to be done for the release.
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If I'm lucky it won't be released this year, before Xmas. I'd miss the intro price because I'll be soon travelling around Thailand until 19th January ;)
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Thanks for the info Lotuzia ... really looking forward to this :D

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