What one bit of Music Theory was really helpful that caused your songwriting to improve ?

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
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I'm on the same page as you. I feel like I have to try each one to internalise the sound, but I couldn't be satisfied with the results. My first progression with this new realisation was a whopping 24 chords - 3 days it took me to get to the end. Today I'm giving myself a break and rocking a v-i-v-i

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Stamped Records wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:03 pm a whopping 24 chords - 3 days it took me to get to the end.
You probably need to play a bit faster. :hihi:

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I remember during a very 'outside' period and milieu I found, for something to solo over a I^7 to IV^7 was just fantastic, voiced how I was doing it.
I was like 30 at the time, you'd think that keep it simple, stupid was less amazing than it was.

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Yeah, I've found these simple changes before but only as chords, I never really knew what to do with them. I still can only really play very simple left hand right hand stuff but I'm getting better. I envy people who arrive at the fantastic possibilities of electronic music, already with an understanding of music, it must be heaven.

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donkey tugger wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:06 pm
Stamped Records wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:03 pm a whopping 24 chords - 3 days it took me to get to the end.
You probably need to play a bit faster. :hihi:
That's what she said.

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there is nothing that cannot be improved with the addition of a cowbell.
the more the better.
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vurt wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:24 pm there is nothing that cannot be improved with the addition of a cowbell.
the more the better.
or a jewish harp.
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telecode wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:20 am
vurt wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:24 pm there is nothing that cannot be improved with the addition of a cowbell.
the more the better.
or a jewish harp.
Oy Veh!
Sweet child in time...

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or a little wind up gorilla on a tricycle.
for the video.
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I learned what a chord progression actually is. Believe it or not, that took 10 years. If you are an electronic musician, and you think you know what a chord progression is without putting your hands on an instrument, you probably don't. Double clicking one note at a time is no comparison to auditioning chords and inversions with the hands. To some that's offensive, to some, it's just fact.

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Stamped Records wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:41 am I learned what a chord progression actually is. Believe it or not, that took 10 years. If you are an electronic musician, and you think you know what a chord progression is without putting your hands on an instrument, you probably don't. Double clicking one note at a time is no comparison to auditioning chords and inversions with the hands. To some that's offensive, to some, it's just fact.
Did they stop making keyboards? :o

Usually synthesizers came with keyboards attached (at least back in the days).
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:41 pm
Stamped Records wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:41 am I learned what a chord progression actually is. Believe it or not, that took 10 years. If you are an electronic musician, and you think you know what a chord progression is without putting your hands on an instrument, you probably don't. Double clicking one note at a time is no comparison to auditioning chords and inversions with the hands. To some that's offensive, to some, it's just fact.
Did they stop making keyboards? :o

Usually synthesizers came with keyboards attached (at least back in the days).
not always case now a days. check out the behringer deepmind and model D synths.

i am on NI maschine so i dont always use a midi keyboard controller if i dont have to. i use the pads sometimes. (but i know rudimentary chord theory so i know where i am going when creating progressions.)

but there are actually tools these days that allow you to get away without actually knowing the basics of the theory behind chords and progressions -- so i can see why and how some music makers arent going to know it.

FWIW -- some of the tools actually generate very interesting ideas and results because you approach the music making differently. you aren't navigating the way you have been accustomed to traditionally (by consciously thinking in terms of I - IV - V e.t.c.) .. you are navigating based on how the tool is design to function .. so you get some very out of the box results which sometimes sound really wild and interesting.
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telecode wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:01 pm FWIW -- some of the tools actually generate very interesting ideas and results because you approach the music making differently. you aren't navigating the way you have been accustomed to traditionally (by consciously thinking in terms of I - IV - V e.t.c.) .. you are navigating based on how the tool is design to function .. so you get some very out of the box results which sometimes sound really wild and interesting.
Except that you sound like anyone else that's using the same tool.

And you don't have to "consciously thinking in terms of I - IV - V etc.". That's beginner's level, at best.

If you know a little more, you'll start thinking in terms of chromaticism first, then in terms of linear approach, then in terms of polytonality, atonality, modalism ("real" modalism, not that rubbish jazzers talk about), etc. There are no "boxes" anymore, except those you may want to create yourself.
Fernando (FMR)

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if you have a sub close to your gut, it is possible to make someone shit themselves with a minitaur.
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If this guy turned up at a gig I think shitting yourself is the least of your worries, whether you have a submarine or not ...

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