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numerouno wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:26 pm
xhunaudio wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:31 pm Hi numerouno,

from its early stages, it was clear this was a cycle-exact emulator.

Will the "performance optimizations" have effect on the accuracy side (introducing high-level approximations of the DSP instructions) or does DSP563XX - and the additional, device-specific emulated chips - mantain its original DSP instruction/cycle-accurate approach ?
Not all all, there are no accuracy changes or anything like that, it will always be a 1:1 emulation :)
hmm...in wonder if we could have the best of both worlds by introducing a (strictly optional!) "draft" or "eco" mode that does more macro modeling. yes, i know - that would dilute the concept, but might be a pragmatic thing to do and as long as it's optional, doesn't hurt
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Music Engineer wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:47 am
numerouno wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:26 pm
xhunaudio wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:31 pm Hi numerouno,

from its early stages, it was clear this was a cycle-exact emulator.

Will the "performance optimizations" have effect on the accuracy side (introducing high-level approximations of the DSP instructions) or does DSP563XX - and the additional, device-specific emulated chips - mantain its original DSP instruction/cycle-accurate approach ?
Not all all, there are no accuracy changes or anything like that, it will always be a 1:1 emulation :)
hmm...in wonder if we could have the best of both worlds by introducing a (strictly optional!) "draft" or "eco" mode that does more macro modeling. yes, i know - that would dilute the concept, but might be a pragmatic thing to do and as long as it's optional, doesn't hurt
At now, I think it's better for them to focus on the "accuracy-preserving" approach.

They also said there's room enough for several improvements on that side, so maybe it's better to see how far they can go before going "high-level" (which may result counterproductive on the long term).
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numerouno wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:16 am We're glad to announce that we finally have a functional VST...
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Awesome news, congrats!
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Our blog is now live, on the blog page you can see the Emulator in action using the Virus C ROM paired with the VirusHC by Mystery Islands for testing purposes. We have a few more bugs to iron out as you may be able to hear

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/

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Amazing stuff. Very clear FAQs section too.
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numerouno wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:59 pm Our blog is now live, on the blog page you can see the Emulator in action using the Virus C ROM paired with the VirusHC by Mystery Islands for testing purposes. We have a few more bugs to iron out as you may be able to hear

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/
Super exciting!! thank you very much!!

I'm guessing the synths with an "X" next to them, like the Korg MS2000 or Novation Supernova series, don't have a ROM yet? I'm wondering if there's any way to help with that. I don't own my Novation Nova anymore, but I'm wondering if there's any way to export it from the hardware?

One important question is the pricing of the plugin. Will the emulator be shared for free or will it be sold? given how excited I am, I wouldn't mind supporting the developers even if only a few synths are able to be re-created. A donation link wouldn't be a bad idea :)
hmm...in wonder if we could have the best of both worlds by introducing a (strictly optional!) "draft" or "eco" mode that does more macro modeling. yes, i know - that would dilute the concept, but might be a pragmatic thing to do and as long as it's optional, doesn't hurt
I remember thinking of a similar idea. This is what u-he Diva has in order to manage it's huge CPU intensity. It's not a bad idea if it turns out the Emulator needs a lot of juice to work, but I think it would be better for them to try and see how efficient they can go rather than assume it's necessary. For all we know, it might be CPU friendly enough that there's no need for it. Right now, the speed is improving with how much they're working on it, so let's see how far it can go first :)

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Shiek927 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:56 pm It's not a bad idea if it turns out the Emulator needs a lot of juice to work, but I think it would be better for them to try and see how efficient they can go rather than assume it's necessary. For all we know, it might be CPU friendly enough that there's no need for it. Right now, the speed is improving with how much they're working on it, so let's see how far it can go first :)
yes, i get how the mere availability of such a mode could take some momentum away from the focus on accurate emulation
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Shiek927 wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:56 pm
numerouno wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:59 pm Our blog is now live, on the blog page you can see the Emulator in action using the Virus C ROM paired with the VirusHC by Mystery Islands for testing purposes. We have a few more bugs to iron out as you may be able to hear

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/
Super exciting!! thank you very much!!

I'm guessing the synths with an "X" next to them, like the Korg MS2000 or Novation Supernova series, don't have a ROM yet? I'm wondering if there's any way to help with that. I don't own my Novation Nova anymore, but I'm wondering if there's any way to export it from the hardware?

One important question is the pricing of the plugin. Will the emulator be shared for free or will it be sold? given how excited I am, I wouldn't mind supporting the developers even if only a few synths are able to be re-created. A donation link wouldn't be a bad idea :)
hmm...in wonder if we could have the best of both worlds by introducing a (strictly optional!) "draft" or "eco" mode that does more macro modeling. yes, i know - that would dilute the concept, but might be a pragmatic thing to do and as long as it's optional, doesn't hurt
I remember thinking of a similar idea. This is what u-he Diva has in order to manage it's huge CPU intensity. It's not a bad idea if it turns out the Emulator needs a lot of juice to work, but I think it would be better for them to try and see how efficient they can go rather than assume it's necessary. For all we know, it might be CPU friendly enough that there's no need for it. Right now, the speed is improving with how much they're working on it, so let's see how far it can go first :)
Thanks for the offer but it seems we have located the missing ROMs now :)

The Emulator will be free and Open-Source :)

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Thanks for the offer but it seems we have located the missing ROMs now :)

The Emulator will be free and Open-Source :)
Thank you for letting me know! :oops:

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Can’t wait to try this on my M1 Mac with Rosetta 2 :D

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cool

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numerouno wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 7:00 pm

The Emulator will be free and Open-Source :)
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Breakthrough: As the Virus C is clocked at 136MHz we decided to swap the ROM over to the Virus B which runs at 108MHz and it seems to work flawlessly

https://dsp56300.wordpress.com/2021/07/ ... n-as-vsti/

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Great news!

Maybe focus on releasing the emulator that plays the Virus B first?

I'm very excited about this project, I have a Virus TI, have Viper and pretty much any other sofware synth that can pull off some 'Virus-esque" stuff, such as Spire, Hive etc, but having something that runs the actual Access Virus code within my PC always was my wet dream, I just love its sound so much .
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recursive one wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 9:10 am Maybe focus on releasing the emulator that plays the Virus B first?
That’s already the plan :) we just need to sort a GUI first as we would like to keep the whole project free. If people are having to buy VirusHC by Mystery Islands to control it then it sort of defeats the point

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