How are they "screwed"? They can still use 11 Intro, the Rack plugin and get REs. I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 am...they screwed up Reason Intro owners with no upgrade path at all?
Reason+ = subscription model (20€ month)
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Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
How do you know that?antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 am I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.
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It all depends on what 12 Intro offers more than 11 Intro and how much it costs. The larger GUI plus some other improvements and/or new features could entice 11 Intro users to upgrade if the upgrade price is right.antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 amHow are they "screwed"? They can still use 11 Intro, the Rack plugin and get REs. I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 am...they screwed up Reason Intro owners with no upgrade path at all?
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- KVRian
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Why would they not be able to go to 12 standard? They said it will be possible so we should assume there's an upgrade from 11 intro to 12...0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:16 am Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
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I don't know - I'm asking. That's what I understoodBlaster wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:30 amWhy would they not be able to go to 12 standard? They said it will be possible so we should assume there's an upgrade from 11 intro to 12...0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:16 am Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
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Of course, why would existing Reason users subscribe if there's a better deal in a potential Reason 12 Suite? Purely a business decision and a smart one if they want as many subscribers as possible. Of course there's a risk that existing users will spent less money, but that's business.. if you want to grow your company, it's about taking risks. Sometimes it pays and sometimes it doesn't. Nobody knows yet if it is a great decision for Reason Studios' bottom line.Lazarus451 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:41 am And personally I'm still not angry, just perplexed about the decisions. Because for me it looks like they are making the bought version (Suite) worse (edit. by upgrading point of view), so that the subscription model would look better.
I also bought 11 Suite hoping that they would continue with it, but it ways said from the beginning that they didn't know if and how it would continue. They were open and transparent about it (if you were keeping up-to-date on forums / news / social media). Still it was for me a cheap(er) way to get more Rack Extensions, so I'm still okay with that.
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its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:49 amSo move on and forget about it.melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:46 amHas been an option since Reason 6.5antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 amWhen did you purchase it with the stick? And why, especially if you're on a laptop?melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:21 am 50 Euros is for the Stick ...ehh duh. and one less usb port on your Laptop.
I 1st bought Reason 10 in late 2017 and I don't think it was even an option if I wanted it.![]()
It's not like it is the only option![]()
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?
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I've no idea who you are, but look up my posts here or on Reasontalk, to see I've gave them a lot of criticism, posted multiple feature requests, etc.melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:16 am its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?
I just don't see any reason for that in this case.
Stop being ridiculous and hyperbolic
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if you choose to obey . you can do so . but I dont choose to do so . I dont look up people ??? for what ? you think your special ... oh boi . everybody has the right to do or be whatever they want to . you do you and I do me . ok ?!?!antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:25 amI've no idea who you are, but look up my posts here or on Reasontalk, to see I've gave them a lot of criticism, posted multiple feature requests, etc.melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:16 am its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?
I just don't see any reason for that in this case.
Stop being ridiculous and hyperbolic![]()
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