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0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 am...they screwed up Reason Intro owners with no upgrade path at all?
How are they "screwed"? They can still use 11 Intro, the Rack plugin and get REs. I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.
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antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 am
0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 am...they screwed up Reason Intro owners with no upgrade path at all?
How are they "screwed"? They can still use 11 Intro, the Rack plugin and get REs.
Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 am I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.
How do you know that?

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antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:13 am
0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 am...they screwed up Reason Intro owners with no upgrade path at all?
How are they "screwed"? They can still use 11 Intro, the Rack plugin and get REs. I doubt anyone who got Intro for very cheap or free (like most did) would be upgrading it to 12 Intro, anyway.
It all depends on what 12 Intro offers more than 11 Intro and how much it costs. The larger GUI plus some other improvements and/or new features could entice 11 Intro users to upgrade if the upgrade price is right.

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0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:16 am Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
Why would they not be able to go to 12 standard? They said it will be possible so we should assume there's an upgrade from 11 intro to 12...

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Blaster wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:30 am
0degree wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:16 am Screwed meaning their upgrade path to 12 is gone. Can they upgrade to 12 standard or hello subscription?
Why would they not be able to go to 12 standard? They said it will be possible so we should assume there's an upgrade from 11 intro to 12...
I don't know - I'm asking. That's what I understood

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Lazarus451 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:41 am And personally I'm still not angry, just perplexed about the decisions. Because for me it looks like they are making the bought version (Suite) worse (edit. by upgrading point of view), so that the subscription model would look better.
Of course, why would existing Reason users subscribe if there's a better deal in a potential Reason 12 Suite? Purely a business decision and a smart one if they want as many subscribers as possible. Of course there's a risk that existing users will spent less money, but that's business.. if you want to grow your company, it's about taking risks. Sometimes it pays and sometimes it doesn't. Nobody knows yet if it is a great decision for Reason Studios' bottom line.

I also bought 11 Suite hoping that they would continue with it, but it ways said from the beginning that they didn't know if and how it would continue. They were open and transparent about it (if you were keeping up-to-date on forums / news / social media). Still it was for me a cheap(er) way to get more Rack Extensions, so I'm still okay with that.

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antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:49 am
melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:46 am
antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 am
melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:21 am 50 Euros is for the Stick ...ehh duh. and one less usb port on your Laptop.
When did you purchase it with the stick? And why, especially if you're on a laptop?

I 1st bought Reason 10 in late 2017 and I don't think it was even an option if I wanted it.
Has been an option since Reason 6.5 :hihi:
So move on and forget about it.
It's not like it is the only option :shrug:
its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?

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melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:16 am its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?
I've no idea who you are, but look up my posts here or on Reasontalk, to see I've gave them a lot of criticism, posted multiple feature requests, etc.

I just don't see any reason for that in this case.

Stop being ridiculous and hyperbolic :dog:
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antic604 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:25 am
melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:16 am its about our right ... and stop acquiescent to everything they do !
the only reason the world is the way it is is because of people not saying what they want
and keeping up the illusion laws that have been put into this world bye a bunch of pedophiles and evil people with no back bone . stop obeying .... we want to be creative ??? only we can make a change . are you going to tell your children the same thing wenn they ask mum or dad why the world is how it is ?
I've no idea who you are, but look up my posts here or on Reasontalk, to see I've gave them a lot of criticism, posted multiple feature requests, etc.

I just don't see any reason for that in this case.

Stop being ridiculous and hyperbolic :dog:
if you choose to obey . you can do so . but I dont choose to do so . I dont look up people ??? for what ? you think your special ... oh boi . everybody has the right to do or be whatever they want to . you do you and I do me . ok ?!?!

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how could anybody think of them selfs as SPECIAL ?!?! are u nuts ???

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Omg is it rogue AI?
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:41 am how could anybody think of them selfs as SPECIAL ?!?! are u nuts ???
thats the first step of a pyschopath ?!?! :lol: :x

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revvy wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:42 am Omg is it rogue AI?
NO... Stand Up for your Rights . thats what it is . same answer for you: you do you I do Me. OK?!

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melime wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:44 am
revvy wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:42 am Omg is it rogue AI?
NO... Stand Up for your Rights . thats what it is . same answer for you: you do you I do Me. OK?!
actually ... scandinavian Countrys are known for there rights and did alot right in there countrys.

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I believe!

I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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