Comparing Dune 3.5 With Hive 2

[DJErmac]

Sorry but to my view, the main problem here is just that some people take things way too seriously.

This is a topic on a forum about two synths. There are tons of on the web. We are all user names. Millions of posts every second everywhere and nobody gives a s#it about. Nothing to be angry about.

I’m pretty sure nothing will happen if somebody posts something you think is wrong, or incorrect, or useless. Nothing will happen if somebody doesn’t agree with you. And nothing will happen if somebody doesn’t answer exactly what you expected, deal with it. Nothing to win here, just play the forum game : people talk with people. Just bring what you want to bring and smile. Be what you want to be and enjoy.

See. What happens if I answer pure poney di@rrhea to this thread ?

I prefer Hive 2 because when my son tried it, he created accidentally a very stupid sound we laughed about for hours. I still remember this story with nostalgia. But I must admit that Dune 3 sounds better when you’re trying to mimic birds fighting, this is where Hive 2 falls short. So you can’t deny U-He has s#itty magpie filters.

Nothing to learn in this thread ? Maybe, maybe not, you decide. Changes what ?...

Relax folks. Enjoy !

EDIT : I love Vurt and he’s been attacked almost for nothing, I’m still singing one of Wagtune’s songs all the time ("Once Upon A Time" is freaking genius !) and he’s been attacked also, for what ? Deciding for once who is the winner between Hive2 and Dune3 ? Just be serious people... We are people on a forum. Enjoy your Christmas.

[Urs]

The riddle is resolved. The performance comparison was made with an older version of Hive that lacks that certain optimisation that would have made those presets comparable.

Not sure if I'm laughing or crying right now.

[DJErmac]

OK, one example. For the moment, I’ve been way more impressed by the 3rd part soundsets I’ve found for Hive2. I’ve never found any soundset I find absolutely mindblowing for Dune 3. Does it prove anything ? No, I don’t think so.

I’ve learnt here that some say Dune 3 fits better in the mix. I’ll try with similar sounds, thanks for the tip.

There are always things to learn if you read it right. But that’s still one user’s own opinion and I’ll try it myself.

To me, this topic wasn’t completely useless. I learnt technical details about step sequencers and things, and I want to try Dune3 vs Hive2 in a mix.

Still nothing to be angry about.

The complains were way less enjoyable. Sorry.

[DJErmac]

The riddle is resolved. The performance comparison was made with an older version of Hive that lacks that certain optimisation that would have made those presets comparable.

Not sure if I'm laughing or crying right now.

We always end up with the conclusion : THIS IS A FORUM.

Hive is Hive, Dune is Dune. A few people talking with a few people are just wasting their time if they think they are changing anything.

Hive is perfect as Hive, Dune is perfect as Dune. Technical comparison is fair, as long as it stays technical, love comparison is plain waste of time if you’re taking it seriously for a second : just say your love and go. Hammer vs Screwdriver. To each one his own. Listen and choose. Or buy both if you like both. Hive users will say what they request for Hive, Dune will say what they request for Dune, and the world will keep on turning as always. My personal conclusion is that there’s nothing to start a war about here.

[wagtunes]

As Wags said, giving tips and tricks on any synth (gained through experience) can be useful but these "this versus that" threads are simply incubators for arguments and misinformation.

If KVR was my website any "this versus that thread" would be deleted before the ink was dry on the OP.

So if anyone wants to start a "tips and tricks" thread for any synth I'll be willing to help if I have knowledge of that synth to share (gained from experience) but start another pointless "this versus that thread" and you'll get the same push back.

What we'd actually need is a sub forum. One thread with tips for dozens of synths would become a navigational nightmare. A subforum with one thread per synth would be ideal. I'd be willing to start it but I have no access to creating a separate sub forum. With all the synths I own and have mastered, I think I could make a valuable contribution.

Sadly, I don't think this is ever going to happen unless a mod sets up the sub forum.

[vurt]

im interested in the magpie filters.

[Lbdunequest]

The riddle is resolved. The performance comparison was made with an older version of Hive that lacks that certain optimisation that would have made those presets comparable.

Not sure if I'm laughing or crying right now.

Thank you for pointing that out tho after updating there is still quite a significant difference in CPU usage

I think you should laught, christmas eve tomorrow, so merry christmas

[vurt]

As Wags said, giving tips and tricks on any synth (gained through experience) can be useful but these "this versus that" threads are simply incubators for arguments and misinformation.

If KVR was my website any "this versus that thread" would be deleted before the ink was dry on the OP.

So if anyone wants to start a "tips and tricks" thread for any synth I'll be willing to help if I have knowledge of that synth to share (gained from experience) but start another pointless "this versus that thread" and you'll get the same push back.

What we'd actually need is a sub forum. One thread with tips for dozens of synths would become a navigational nightmare. A subforum with one thread per synth would be ideal. I'd be willing to start it but I have no access to creating a separate sub forum. With all the synths I own and have mastered, I think I could make a valuable contribution.

Sadly, I don't think this is ever going to happen unless a mod sets up the sub forum.

sound design.
someone already started a vital thread, up to you and others to start other synths i guess

should be easy for you or tek.
pick a synth, one you've done a lot of sounds for.
opening post - walkthrough of one of the easier bass patches perhaps.
then add more as you see fit.

little notes explaining not just how it works, but why you chose a particular setting, with maybe an example of why a different setting doesn't work so well. eg envelopes, fast attack and short release, because i want a staccato plucky sound rather than a slow build blah blah ..

[wagtunes]

Relax folks. Enjoy !

EDIT : I love Vurt and he’s been attacked almost for nothing, I’m still singing one of Wagtune’s songs all the time ("Once Upon A Time" is freaking genius !) and he’s been attacked also, for what ? Deciding for once who is the winner between Hive2 and Dune3 ? Just be serious people... We are people on a forum. Enjoy your Christmas.

You made my day. I've had a few compliments on that one.

Enjoy your Christmas too.

Wags

[DJErmac]

Hive 2 is great. Try it. Or listen to it.

Dune 3 is great. Try it. Or listen to it.

You need very technical details before you choose ? They’re here.
You’re stupid and you want something to decide for you ? Sorry that you’re stupid, there are polls everywhere, and videos on Youtube galore.

If you can, you should get both imho.

[wagtunes]

As Wags said, giving tips and tricks on any synth (gained through experience) can be useful but these "this versus that" threads are simply incubators for arguments and misinformation.

If KVR was my website any "this versus that thread" would be deleted before the ink was dry on the OP.

So if anyone wants to start a "tips and tricks" thread for any synth I'll be willing to help if I have knowledge of that synth to share (gained from experience) but start another pointless "this versus that thread" and you'll get the same push back.

What we'd actually need is a sub forum. One thread with tips for dozens of synths would become a navigational nightmare. A subforum with one thread per synth would be ideal. I'd be willing to start it but I have no access to creating a separate sub forum. With all the synths I own and have mastered, I think I could make a valuable contribution.

Sadly, I don't think this is ever going to happen unless a mod sets up the sub forum.

sound design.
someone already started a vital thread, up to you and others to start other synths i guess

should be easy for you or tek.
pick a synth, one you've done a lot of sounds for.
opening post - walkthrough of one of the easier bass patches perhaps.
then add more as you see fit.

little notes explaining not just how it works, but why you chose a particular setting, with maybe an example of why a different setting doesn't work so well. eg envelopes, fast attack and short release, because i want a staccato plucky sound rather than a slow build blah blah ..

The problem is, it will get lost amidst all the other stuff in there. But, as a viable alternative, it's worth considering. I'll give it some thought and see what I come up with. Maybe a thread designator like ***Synth Tips & Tricks *** - SYNTH NAME. That might make the thread stand out if there's a standardized format for each synth.

[fisherKing]

But I must admit that Dune 3 sounds better when you’re trying to mimic birds fighting, this is where Hive 2 falls short. So you can’t deny U-He has s#itty magpie filters.

this; because, personally, all i ever want to do is 'mimic birds fighting'; in music, and in life

[vurt]

As Wags said, giving tips and tricks on any synth (gained through experience) can be useful but these "this versus that" threads are simply incubators for arguments and misinformation.

If KVR was my website any "this versus that thread" would be deleted before the ink was dry on the OP.

So if anyone wants to start a "tips and tricks" thread for any synth I'll be willing to help if I have knowledge of that synth to share (gained from experience) but start another pointless "this versus that thread" and you'll get the same push back.

What we'd actually need is a sub forum. One thread with tips for dozens of synths would become a navigational nightmare. A subforum with one thread per synth would be ideal. I'd be willing to start it but I have no access to creating a separate sub forum. With all the synths I own and have mastered, I think I could make a valuable contribution.

Sadly, I don't think this is ever going to happen unless a mod sets up the sub forum.

sound design.
someone already started a vital thread, up to you and others to start other synths i guess

should be easy for you or tek.
pick a synth, one you've done a lot of sounds for.
opening post - walkthrough of one of the easier bass patches perhaps.
then add more as you see fit.

little notes explaining not just how it works, but why you chose a particular setting, with maybe an example of why a different setting doesn't work so well. eg envelopes, fast attack and short release, because i want a staccato plucky sound rather than a slow build blah blah ..

The problem is, it will get lost amidst all the other stuff in there. But, as a viable alternative, it's worth considering. I'll give it some thought and see what I come up with. Maybe a thread designator like ***Synth Tips & Tricks *** - SYNTH NAME. That might make the thread stand out if there's a standardized format for each synth.

yup, and if it does pick up, maybe then the powers that be, will see a need for a separate sub forum

if i don't chat elsewhere before, you and the family have a great christmas

[wagtunes]

As Wags said, giving tips and tricks on any synth (gained through experience) can be useful but these "this versus that" threads are simply incubators for arguments and misinformation.

If KVR was my website any "this versus that thread" would be deleted before the ink was dry on the OP.

So if anyone wants to start a "tips and tricks" thread for any synth I'll be willing to help if I have knowledge of that synth to share (gained from experience) but start another pointless "this versus that thread" and you'll get the same push back.

What we'd actually need is a sub forum. One thread with tips for dozens of synths would become a navigational nightmare. A subforum with one thread per synth would be ideal. I'd be willing to start it but I have no access to creating a separate sub forum. With all the synths I own and have mastered, I think I could make a valuable contribution.

Sadly, I don't think this is ever going to happen unless a mod sets up the sub forum.

sound design.
someone already started a vital thread, up to you and others to start other synths i guess

should be easy for you or tek.
pick a synth, one you've done a lot of sounds for.
opening post - walkthrough of one of the easier bass patches perhaps.
then add more as you see fit.

little notes explaining not just how it works, but why you chose a particular setting, with maybe an example of why a different setting doesn't work so well. eg envelopes, fast attack and short release, because i want a staccato plucky sound rather than a slow build blah blah ..

The problem is, it will get lost amidst all the other stuff in there. But, as a viable alternative, it's worth considering. I'll give it some thought and see what I come up with. Maybe a thread designator like ***Synth Tips & Tricks *** - SYNTH NAME. That might make the thread stand out if there's a standardized format for each synth.

yup, and if it does pick up, maybe then the powers that be, will see a need for a separate sub forum

if i don't chat elsewhere before, you and the family have a great christmas

You too Vurt. Hope you get all the toys you want this year.

[THE INTRANCER]

I see the pattern of same people derailing the thread (again) to the pointless discussion about nothing.

Yes and Wagtunes, Vurt and fisherKing are just continuing it...

^ The thread is about Hive & Dune, there are other places to discuss the KVR forum stuff and that's here, or in Off Topic.