Waldorf MicroWave as a plugin?

[knowix]

It would be interesting if Waldorf actually used the chip emulation tech to help create a more accurate representation of the Microwave XT within an already present piece of hardware. It's pretty clear at this stage that Waldorf can't manage the software part of its product base, and probably ought to offload authorised plugin versions of their hardware IP to Arturia.

[chk071]

For them it's easy. They just have to port the code from the hardware to plugin. Like they did already with Blofeld/Largo. And, running the plugin natively, they have a big performance advantage.

But, that's all speculative, as none of us even know if this will be a software version of the microWave. Again, I have doubts. This rather sounds like a microWave soundset for the M, or a microWave/microQ style "micro" version of the M.

[mothra]

For them it's easy. They just have to port the code from the hardware to plugin. Like they did already with Blofeld/Largo. And, running the plugin natively, they have a big performance advantage.

There is no code for the Microwave, its been gone for roughly 25 years now. If they're making a Microwave plugin, they're starting from scratch unless Stefan found some magic notes he was not aware of when they attempted to 'fix it' back in 2000.

[chk071]

For them it's easy. They just have to port the code from the hardware to plugin. Like they did already with Blofeld/Largo. And, running the plugin natively, they have a big performance advantage.

There is no code for the Microwave, its been gone for roughly 25 years now.

How do you know that?

They used a lot of old code (e.g. filter models) and wavetables in their former synths.

[mothra]

How do you know that?

They used a lot of old code (e.g. filter models) and wavetables in their former synths.

Because Wolfram Franke told the entire Waldorf user list about 24 years ago. We were constantly asking about bugfixes for firmware 2.33 after it was released heh. Someone else has even mentioned it a few times over at Gearspace in the threads regarding it.

The wavetables are just that, a collection of single cycle waveforms. Those existed long before the Microwave as most of these came right from the PPG, and have existed outside the environment for a long time. Most of those wavetables are like 2-4 single cycles, all you need are those samples. The interpolation handles the rest of the table inside the synth. The code for the Microwave's engine is long gone, unless they magically resurrected whatever the old dev terminal was called they used to write it in 1990. They had pretty much written it off even back then.

[chk071]

Well, if that's true, then chances are indeed very slim that this is a software version of the microWave.

[Shabdahbriah]

There are a ton of patches for this on the Waldorf site though - look in the legacy hardware section

Indeed. Like 3000+

Really impressed with the sound of this.

[IvyBirds]

It's pretty clear at this stage that Waldorf can't manage the software part of its product base, and probably ought to offload authorised plugin versions of their hardware IP to Arturia.

Arturia doesn't really need to license anything they could do a PPG Wave emulation rather easily, the Wavetables themselves are not subject to copyright as they are single cycle waveforms

Arturia is already beyond halfway there with their Fairlight CMI emulation that's 8 bit, and has the same SSM2044 filter

[felis]

Someone brought up the NL2 emulator.
Seeing as how the OS is on an Eprom chip, does anyone know what will be involved in getting that to work.
I searched for NL2 OS v1.06, which was the last version, and only found chips for sale.

[chk071]

Someone brought up the NL2 emulator.

You mean that they're actively working on that?

[drsyncenstein]

Someone brought up the NL2 emulator.
Seeing as how the OS is on an Eprom chip, does anyone know what will be involved in getting that to work.
I searched for NL2 OS v1.06, which was the last version, and only found chips for sale.

That's exactly the same as for the Microwave. Eprom's are read out to a file and then they can be shared. That's how they are able to sell the chips. Should be possible to find the firmware, not different than searching for warez.

[felis]

That's exactly the same as for the Microwave. Eprom's are read out to a file and then they can be shared. That's how they are able to sell the chips. Should be possible to find the firmware, not different than searching for warez.

OK.
Nothing on the Clavia site, and the site where I've found other stuff has NL1 and NL3, but not NL2.
It's early still though. I'm sure something will turn up by the time it's ready.
I can't even remember how long ago I sold my NL2, but it's pretty ancient history in synth time.

Clavia seems like a good company. Maybe they'll put it up on their site.
I should have kept my G2. I liked that one much more than the NL2 I had.

[drsyncenstein]

improve your searches. just checked and found firmware for NL 1 & 2 almost immediately

[gentleclockdivider]

That's exactly the same as for the Microwave. Eprom's are read out to a file and then they can be shared. That's how they are able to sell the chips. Should be possible to find the firmware, not different than searching for warez.

OK.
Nothing on the Clavia site, and the site where I've found other stuff has NL1 and NL3, but not NL2.
It's early still though. I'm sure something will turn up by the time it's ready.
I can't even remember how long ago I sold my NL2, but it's pretty ancient history in synth time.

Clavia seems like a good company. Maybe they'll put it up on their site.
I should have kept my G2. I liked that one much more than the NL2 I had.

You need the bin of th lead 2x , not lead2

[felis]

Thanks.
I saw that and skimmed right by it because I was looking specifically for NL2.