KVR Audio

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:28 pm

ffx wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:26 pm Maybe they could at least publish the driver sources of Kontrol and machine series? Ah no, these are capitalists until death, right?

That is proprietary IP - which will most likely go to the next buyer (if that's even possible) or off to the shredder/refuse pile if these devices disappear.

VP

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm

If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.

npdc · Post by **npdc** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:37 pm

Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.

1. Backup your Plugin Alliance Products:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-products
2. Licence File for Offline Activation:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-devices
But it only works for the current PC ID, not future ones.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:40 pm

npdc wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:37 pm
Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.
1. Backup your Plugin Alliance Products:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-products
2. Licence File for Offline Activation:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-devices
But it only works for the current PC ID, not future ones.

Is there a way to do that without Native Access for the NI plugins, or is that only for products originally from Plugin Alliance?

npdc · Post by **npdc** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:41 pm

Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:40 pm
npdc wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:37 pm
Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.
1. Backup your Plugin Alliance Products:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-products
2. Licence File for Offline Activation:
https://plugin-alliance.com/pages/my-devices
But it only works for the current PC ID, not future ones.
Is there a way to do that without Native Access for the NI plugins, or is that only for products originally from Plugin Alliance?

Only for PA.

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:42 pm

Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.

"going under" is not what is going on here today.

That extremely unlikely scenario could only come into play if not a single entity anywhere on the planet is interested in acquiring anything here of value.

We are a long way aways from that end game.

VP

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:43 pm

Fwiw, poor Brian Clevinger. Absynth just got revived and is now part of this.

As far as the rest of NI goes: They deserve it. Since quite some years already. They didn't learn, they didn't care one bit about what their loyal customers wanted and the best programmers have been jumping off the ship year ago already.
To this day, Kontakt's editor is a disgrace to human intelligence and Battery 4 has been the anti-thesis of the idea of evolution. Let alone they abandoned a galore of products for no reasons and even rendered plenty of hardware devices electro trash.
So really, f*** them, they've chosen this way by themselves.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:45 pm

Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:42 pm That extremely unlikely scenario could only come into play if not a single entity anywhere on the planet is interested in acquiring anything here of value.

Why would anyone want to aquire NI for any reasonable money?

apoclypse · Post by **apoclypse** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:48 pm

Examigan wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:35 pm If they are going under, it would be nice if somehow they could update their plugins to just use serials to enable the plugins.

I doubt they would do that because they dgaf. They haven't done it with any of their other abandoned plugins. There is no reason why a plugin like Kore still requires Service Center to activate. They don't even sell the thing anymore, just let us do an offline activation at this point, that's the only thing keeping it from working. I reached out to their support and they basically said "Sorry, not sorry". I still have my old iMac sitting around because I'm afraid I will lose all of my old projects that used Kore and I've been too lazy to bounce everything down (I know I should done it ages ago, but here we are).

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:48 pm

Times are changin'

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:49 pm

Sascha Franck wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:45 pmWhy would anyone want to aquire NI for any reasonable money?

You really need to ask this?

Despite many of our shared feelings on NI (both positive AND negative for me) - there are parts of the NI universe which are very valuable.

Any company who is in the business of doing business will be looking at this - if there is money to be made

VP

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:52 pm

... and there still is.

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:53 pm

apoclypse wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:48 pmThere is no reason why a plugin like Kore still requires Service Center to activate. They don't even sell the thing anymore, just let us do an offline activation at this point, that's the only thing keeping it from working.

This is exactly why they won't allow you to do an offline - because even the tiniest question if something goes haywire - constitutes support. Even if you and I think we will never need support - millions of others out there are not like us.

If in some parallel universe - a door was opened for Kore offline activations - in pour the non-techs - asking question after question about this thing or that error message as nauseum. Now what?

Off topic - years ago - I once had an awesome conversation with a product manager over there and you would not believe what was involved in just keeping Service Center happy back in the day.

Better to just slam that door and forget about it.

VP

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:04 pm

Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 9:49 pm Despite many of our shared feelings on NI (both positive AND negative for me) - there are parts of the NI universe which are very valuable.

Any company who is in the business of doing business will be looking at this - if there is money to be made

That already happened. And it ended as a flop. The financial injection of €50 Million some years back didn't help. Selling out to Francisco Partners didn't help. So why would anyone buy NI?
Let alone they'd possibly also had to hire the programmers to make use of the codebase.

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:07 pm

Sascha Franck wrote: Tue Jan 27, 2026 10:04 pmSo why would anyone buy NI?

No one has said anyone "would" buy NI - lock, stock and barrel. (the entire company)

But maybe someone wants just Kontakt? Or Maschine. Etc etc.

Do not think in terms of a "whole" - think more in terms of "sum of it's parts".

This large collection of "things" is NI right now - but that doesn't mean it will be tomorrow.

VP

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