Repro-1 (out now)

[fmr]

It seems now that we are moving in circles. You didn't simply quote him, you said it "wasn't developed by Arturia" (I would add ALONE) and ended your phrase with a "only", and that has a meaning. Here are the words you wrote: "The Synclavier wasn't developed by Arturia though. It's the original Synclavier guy (Cameron Jones). Arturia did the GUI only." (end of quote).

Don't play innocent to me. The "only" is kind of devaluating anything else besides the DSP. The exact words of Glenn were "... We did all the graphic interface, but he did all the DSP". That's what a joint-venture is, each one does a part of the job, and that was never hidden. So, now that the facts are established, it's time to move on and close this subject.

[david.beholder]

It's amazing how the will of bashing at all cost lead to such distorted comments. It's even in the site of Cameron Jones that it was a "Joint development between Arturia and Synclavier Digital". The technical sheet in the manual quotes not less than 12 names. Do you believe Arturia would nedd 11 guys to come out with just "the GUI only"?

This thread is about RePro, please go away with your crapmulations ads and trolling. There are special thread about crapmulations in this forum and that's where your praise should be.

Upd: Is really funny that you don't even know who is Cameron Jones and his DSP abilities but still arguing.

[fmr]

Upd: Is really funny that you don't even know who is Cameron Jones but still arguing.

Of course I don't know

[nevernamed]

It seems now that we are moving in circles. You didn't simply quote him, you said it "wasn't developed by Arturia" (I would add ALONE) and ended your phrase with a "only", and that has a meaning. Here are the words you wrote: "The Synclavier wasn't developed by Arturia though. It's the original Synclavier guy (Cameron Jones). Arturia did the GUI only." (end of quote).

Don't play innocent to me. The "only" is kind of devaluating anything else besides the DSP. The exact words of Glenn were "... We did all the graphic interface, but he did all the DSP". That's what a joint-venture is, each one does a part of the job, and that was never hidden. So, now that the facts are established, it's time to move on and close this subject.

NO I didn't say that. Glen said that. I simply paraphrased him. I later quoted him verbatim so as to augment and moderate what I said. And your response was, to quote you back to you, quite "drastic". Accusing me of bashing without basis etc etc. When basis was provided it was rejected rather quickly. We will continue to go in circles because you refuse to be realistic and prefer to be smug about the way you responded to the original comment. Which was based in fact and not inflammatory at all. Nor was it "bashing" as you suggest.

[zerocrossing]

You should not accuse other persons for "bashing" something, if they come
to different conclusions as you do. There's freedom of liking and of disliking.

Yes, liking or disliking is something anyone is entitled to. But then one should say "I don't like it, and IMO they did not do a good job" and not "they murder anything they emulate" or something similar. That is a language I don't think is simply expressioning a dislike, it is much more hyperbolic and drastic, and should be kept for something that is supported with facts, not opinions, and have to have much stronger reasons than "envelopes reset to zero" and "oscillators are not free running". I know this is Internet and KVR, but nevertheless...

I didn't use that expression, but since i've used to work also for years with a (real) jupiter 8, a (real) matrix 12 etc. i can understand if people who know the real thing are drastically underwhelmed...
but as i've written: beside of the function of an "emulation" those plug ins for sure may be very useful for those who like them.

I can't say that I've ever owned anything Arturia has emulated. I've also found some of their emulations sound a bit dull regardless. But, they can also sound great. When Prophet V is in 5VS mode it can produce some really nice sounds, especially evolving pads. The latest iteration of Mini V can sound really good. Matrix V sounds pretty good to me, but I've never owned a Matrix 12.

Now, if I want to get a good bread and butter analog sound, I'll use my software. Frankly, I sold Diva the week after I picked up a Prophet 6. I'll still go to Mini V for it's formant filter, or Prophet V for its 5VS mode.

[david.beholder]

"I never owned anything that Arturia is trying to crapmulate but who cares they don't sound like originals - still could sound good. I'm writing into the topic of next-gen emulation just to mention that detailed emulations are waste of time and efforts."

Similar to I never owned the plane but I own bicycle... don't worry it still could give some smooth ride downhill. Perfect justification of buyng generic bycicle priced, displayed and marketed as plane.

Upd: Is really funny that you don't even know who is Cameron Jones but still arguing.

Of course I don't know

But you're still arguing that Arturia did it except even they admit they DSP code is written outside of company by man famous for dsp skills and innovative ideas since late 70ths. Which leads us to:

The "only" is kind of devaluating anything else besides the DSP.

Sure, in this case GUI is most important and innovative part... except it's copy/paste of existing thing in case of crapmulations and copy/paste with some looking around in case of Synclavier.

[spunkmuffin]

This is probably the wrong thread, but what do you guys think of this as a demo track?

http://www.u-he.com/music/Repro_autm_R_prcs2.mp3

Here's something where I had some fun adding some internal effects to an otherwise pretty solid bass sound. First part is just delay (but not just some delay... you'll hear it...). Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay - a name that certainly suits the process:

http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3

Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.

This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting

This thread needs a bump. Listen to the above samples Urs posted...doesn't it sound great?!

Monosynths forever!

[Lotuzia]

It's amazing how the will of bashing at all cost lead to such distorted comments. It's even in the site of Cameron Jones that it was a "Joint development between Arturia and Synclavier Digital". The technical sheet in the manual quotes not less than 12 names. Do you believe Arturia would nedd 11 guys to come out with just "the GUI only"?

This thread is about RePro, please go away with your crapmulations ads and trolling. There are special thread about crapmulations in this forum and that's where your praise should be.

Upd: Is really funny that you don't even know who is Cameron Jones and his DSP abilities but still arguing.

It seems that Fernando didn't start the discussion about Arturia. A poster named Garrincha did. And Fernando simply reacted to the fact this company was mentioned (in a bad way). Then you came, and added some oil on the fire, bashing Arturia for good. So really no need to point at Fernando for this, because you are for a good part responsible for the derailment of this thread, and you can't expect that some people will not react to your casual anathemas. They have every right to do so on a public forum.

[Urs]

This is probably the wrong thread, but what do you guys think of this as a demo track?

http://www.u-he.com/music/Repro_autm_R_prcs2.mp3

Here's something where I had some fun adding some internal effects to an otherwise pretty solid bass sound. First part is just delay (but not just some delay... you'll hear it...). Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay - a name that certainly suits the process:

http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3

Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.

This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting

This thread needs a bump. Listen to the above samples Urs posted...doesn't it sound great?!

Monosynths forever!

Monosynths forever!

[Elektronisch]

This is probably the wrong thread, but what do you guys think of this as a demo track?

http://www.u-he.com/music/Repro_autm_R_prcs2.mp3

Here's something where I had some fun adding some internal effects to an otherwise pretty solid bass sound. First part is just delay (but not just some delay... you'll hear it...). Last bit adds an effect that we lovingly call "Jaws" before the delay - a name that certainly suits the process:

http://uhesongs.heckmannaudiogmb.netdna ... _Repro.mp3

Just in case anyone wondered what the effects would be like. No external effects used, no eq.

This is of course in no way representative for the overall character of Repro-1. It's just something I came across which I couldn't resist posting

This thread needs a bump. Listen to the above samples Urs posted...doesn't it sound great?!

Monosynths forever!

Monosynths forever!

Urs, i am wondering, what you think will be final CPU use of this synth? will it be higher/lower then for example Hive?

[EvilDragon]

It's higher than Hive.

[Urs]

Urs, i am wondering, what you think will be final CPU use of this synth? will it be higher/lower then for example Hive?

It currently uses the CPU of about 10 voices of Hive in Dirty mode on my machine. I might get it down to 7 or 8.

- Urs

[Urs]

Also, I think it will be a tad more than Legend, but because we drop support for some vintage systems we can make it a tad faster than Diva.

[Elektronisch]

Also, I think it will be a tad more than Legend, but because we drop support for some vintage systems we can make it a tad faster than Diva.

So it will be more then Hive, but easier on CPU then Diva in Mono mode if i understand right?

[Robmobius]

Also, I think it will be a tad more than Legend, but because we drop support for some vintage systems we can make it a tad faster than Diva.

Take my money...