GROUP BUY: Ocean Way & Drum Masters Ultimate Studio Drum Bundle!

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300 - Free Toontrack EZPlayer Pro - TARGET ACHIEVED
400 - Over 100 more midi grooves from ODD GROOVES, an extra Signature Snare from a famous drummer, Ocean Way Drums Kit 10 Medium for Infinite Player, FIFTY Hybrid Kits featuring mix and match kit pieces. - TARGET ACHIEVED
NEXT TARGET: 500

What You Get If You Join Now

Everything in the "Ultimate Studio Drums Group Buy" is downloadable exclusively from eSoundz.com This is a limited-time bundle that includes the following kits that are playable from Sonic Reality's latest Infinite Player plug-in powered by Kontakt 3.5:

• Sonic Reality's Infinite Player plug-in powered by Kontakt*
• 12 different Ocean Way® Drums DL mix kits from dry to medium to ambient
• 15 Drum Masters 2 Signature Drum Kits featuring drum kits of legendary drummers
• Ambient Impulse Responses from some of the best sounding studio rooms in the world to use with Infinite Player/Kontakt's convolution reverb
• Bonus Midi Grooves

* If you already own the Infinite Player you can get a brand new previously unreleased Drum Masters 2 Ludwig® Jazz Kit instead!

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[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

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http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?Prod ... ode=USDKVR

[Squids]

Okay, some further clarification on the extras so far for those that join this group buy.

The following are the things you can choose:

1. You can choose between Infinite Player (which you need to use the sounds of this group buy) OR if you already have it you can have a brand new Ludwig Jazz Kit (new stereo/quasi-multi version) instead.

2. You can choose between EZ Player Pro from our friends at Toontrack (this is not required at all for using this group buy but if you want a great tool for working with midi files then this is normally $50 on it's own! Nice freebie.) OR if you already have or don't need EZPP you can choose a Drum Masters Multitrack Kit instead. The kit offered will be a multi-track version of one of the stereo/quasi-multi kits in this group buy. Note that it will not be an Ocean Way Drum Multichannel kit! (I saw someone hoping for an OWD Kit # in MT - that can't happen as they are not encoded for the Infinite Player and a ton of other reasons). It will either be the JB Sonor Kit or the NDV Gretsch Kit. Those were all recorded during the sessions with John Blackwell (drummer for Prince) and Nick D'Virgilio (drummer for Tears for Fears and Spock's Beard).

The following are things that everyone gets (automatically, no choosing):

OWD Kit 10 Medium for Infinite Player This is great to have to complete the dry/medium/ambient options for at least one of the kits (Kit 10 which is one of my favorites). Then you can see what it is like to have Ocean Way Drums DL kits with the three mixes (dry, medium and ambient for each kit). This one is normally given away just as a demo to work with the OWD Player. So, it's nice to have it fully working for the Infinite Player and this group buy.

A Signature Snare from either the Pearl, Yamaha or Tama models done with famous drummers. At the moment it is still a mystery because I want to pick the one I like the best with the rest of the kits. I could pick it at random but I'd prefer to hear it in context of a hybrid kit... if you were curious why it was still a mystery. But I will let you know which one very soon! Can't go wrong since it is either going to be a Gadd, Copeland, Chambers or Weckl snare!!!

Over 100 Odd Grooves courtesy or Per at Odd Grooves (thanks Per!)

50 Hybrid Kits courtesy of El Squidsarino (but these may come a few days later since I can only do them after we make the changes that were requested such as the hi hat closed thing and the OWD/Infinite tweaks I mentioned for the effects which we're doing now). They're easy to add and super small downloads though. Plus, we're planning on doing a contest and tutorial for making your own which we'll share with everyone so you'll have even MORE creative Hybrid Kits from that if all goes well.

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I think that's everything so far up to the 400. So what happens if we hit 500? Okay, let's make it simple. You get ANOTHER Drum Masters Multitrack Drum Kit.

UNOFFICIAL INFO:

Now, if you're curious to know what I was talking about seeing if we could do earlier that I have to find out on Monday about is this. For the multiple choice options it would be cool if you could say pick 2 items out of the following multiple choices:

- Infinite Player (you need it if you don't already have it)
- EZ Player Pro (optional but if you want a midi tool...)
- Multitrack JB Sonor Kit
- Multitrack NDV Gretsch Kit
- Stereo/Quasimulti Ludwig Jazz Kit

and if you reach 500 then there would be THREE things you could choose instead and we'd add another Multitrack kit from Drum Masters (maybe even the multitrack version of the Jazz kit since no one possibly has that). I just want to make sure there's enough new things for anyone who joined that has Drum Masters Gold already that's all. I know some of you do. We can't do any further swapping out for things you already have on this (too many people) so we'll try to make enough variety in the choices for you to get at least a few things you didn't already have. Remember these are extras and the main product itself are hopefully worth the price alone. If everyone overall can get some good bonuses out of the extras then that'll be reasonable I think. Obviously those that are new to Drum Masters 2 or Ocean Way Drums get the most new stuff out of this but you have to admit there's enough value for everybody regardless.

I will let you know if this becomes official. I only posted it because I am 90% sure we can do it and the only question I have is related to the EZ Player Pro and how we deliver the serial on that which is different... we may have to do that manually for those that choose that is all. Not a big deal... but with 400-500 people it just could take a little while to get it to you depending on how many people choose it. But we don't even know how many will! Maybe only 50 people... then no biggie. If 400 people chose it and we had to do it manually... well, Allen would want to spill my ink! Even though he has help but... I always make these group buys complicated for them because I try to make you all happy which is our priority. Then they have to keep track of everything after (sorry!). But hey come on. These group buys are ALWAYS more fun when there are bonus extras right? So it's worth a little complication don't you think?

Okay, off to have some huevos.

[DarkStar]

I like the sound of those Stereo/Quasimodo kits

(with added bells, I guess)

[Squids]

I like the sound of those Stereo/Quasimodo kits

(with added bells, I guess)

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Yeah, we need a better name than that! Quasimodo doesn't cut it... but just calling them stereo doesn't do it justice. It IS still multichannel just no discrete mic mixing.

[zedd]

Thanks for the update Squids.

I have a couple of quick questions...

(1) You've been talking about this Group Buy package in a way that makes it seem as if this drum library is an integrated set which is separate from other sets. I know it is a unique set because it includes these Ocean Way drums. But once it is installed, isn't all of the content in this group buy going to be completely interchangeable with and housed in the same place as our existing IP drum content? For those of us who already have IP and some IP drum kits, we're just adding 28 new kits to our collection, right? (i.e. this package is not going to show up in Kontakt as a separate library, if my assumption is correct).

(2) Can you please remind me when those of us who have Drum Masters Gold edition will be able to get the update to the new versions with the script modifications?

[hydemusic]

I like the sound of those Stereo/Quasimodo kits

(with added bells, I guess)

'

Yeah, we need a better name than that! Quasimodo doesn't cut it... but just calling them stereo doesn't do it justice. It IS still multichannel just no discrete mic mixing.

Squids, other than mic mixing, what advantage(for some)or difference(for others like me)are there in the MT kits? For my needs (individual overall level adjustments with separate outs for each instrument is all I would need. So I would guess if I wanted to "tweak" some instrument as the snare with paying with the different mic set-ups, I could do that with the MT...right? Any other differences?

[Squids]

Thanks. I've heard from others about the food from Portugal and yes I am looking forward to trying it very much! I also LOVE fresh. Huge fan of that for sure!

You you stop by Portugal give me a call and i'll give you a tour through our best cuisine. It can rival with the best french or italian cuisine at ease.

Cheers mate

That's very nice of you to offer. I LOVE French and Italian so if it's THAT good then I may have to find a way to get to Portugal... maybe Sonic Reality needs a good distributor there.

[Squids]

Thanks for the update Squids.

I have a couple of quick questions...

(1) You've been talking about this Group Buy package in a way that makes it seem as if this drum library is an integrated set which is separate from other sets. I know it is a unique set because it includes these Ocean Way drums. But once it is installed, isn't all of the content in this group buy going to be completely interchangeable with and housed in the same place as our existing IP drum content? For those of us who already have IP and some IP drum kits, we're just adding 28 new kits to our collection, right? (i.e. this package is not going to show up in Kontakt as a separate library, if my assumption is correct).

(2) Can you please remind me when those of us who have Drum Masters Gold edition will be able to get the update to the new versions with the script modifications?

The new versions are all in the patches which contain the scripts. So the free update for DM1 Silver, Gold & Platinum users can only happen when those patches are done. Since there were some final tweaks that had to be done with the positions/slots thing and the closed hi hat thing the updates will be available after we've completed that. As to when, that is tough to say but I'd say some time within the next couple of weeks or so. After this group buy at least.

As for the first question, all of this resides in the same place as your other Infinite Player content. So all of the NKX's go into your SAMPLES folder and if you own Drum Masters 1 Gold then you'll have some of them (like the NDV Gretsch and Premier kits for example) and you won't have a bunch of the new kit and kit piece NKX's so you'd add those to your samples folder. Then in your Multis folder will be it's own thing called "Ultimate Studio Drums" and within that will be three folders - a Drum Masters Signature GB folder (that's the group buy edition), an Ocean Way Drums DL IP folder (that's the Infinite Player version for this group buy of DL kits) and then a Hybrid Kits folder which will have kits that mix and match kit pieces between all of the various kit pieces. You'll also have those kit pieces in their own folder in the INSTRUMENTS for individual NKI's you can load (just like you do now with Drum Masters).

Now, remember that's just where they load from. You can resave them back to any folder you want. This is just to keep it separate and organized. But it IS within the same Infinite Player library. All of the Infinite Player titles (FX Tron, Cinema Sessions, EpiK DrumS, Drum Masters 2, Konstruction etc.) all go in this same place. Now you know why we call it "infinite"!

[Squids]

I like the sound of those Stereo/Quasimodo kits

(with added bells, I guess)

'

Yeah, we need a better name than that! Quasimodo doesn't cut it... but just calling them stereo doesn't do it justice. It IS still multichannel just no discrete mic mixing.

Squids, other than mic mixing, what advantage(for some)or difference(for others like me)are there in the MT kits? For my needs (individual overall level adjustments with separate outs for each instrument is all I would need. So I would guess if I wanted to "tweak" some instrument as the snare with paying with the different mic set-ups, I could do that with the MT...right? Any other differences?

The only difference IS the mic mixing and also the ability to process individual mic channels with effects. But that is a big deal for those that want to work with drum kits the way you would in a multi-track drum session where you can get your own mix of dry to ambient or do certain production things like compressing certain mics and not others... all sorts of things which would be a whole other topic (multitrack drum production).

For me personally, I happen to like both. I like the speed and efficiency of just using this combo stereo/multichannel without mic mixing. If I was playing an e-Drum kit I would probably prefer these. If I was producing an album and creating a drum track for it then I might prefer the multi-track discrete mic mixing ones but both would still be handy.

There's even certain mixing advantages to both in the sense that the stereo kit pieces are kind of like "busses" and you can apply effects to the whole instrument! If one was to take these drums and want to do something heavily processed such as a lofi effect or distortion then it's probably better to use the special stereo kits than a full multitrack kit... but you know, it all depends on the session, the style of music and each person's needs are different. For my own use I like to have both. For most people's needs I think the special stereo with individual outputs for each drum type are a good common ground. For people that are wanting to dig into some engineering/production and/or are already advanced from experience with products like BFD and others that offer mic mixing, it's nice to have Multitrack kits.

Hope that helps you and anyone else wondering about it. Also, I think that these special stereo kits are a good place to start (and you certainly get some great variety in this package). But the fact that you all are getting at least one and maybe more Multitrack kits as a bonus in this group buy then you'll have a chance to see the difference first hand... and that's an even better way to know if it's for you.

[duojet]

Squids,

Great news for people who own EZ player pro already. I have invested alot in toontrack already and it's cool of you to offer an alternative to EZP pro.

One question about the both the multitrack and "stereo" kits.

Is the ambience not separately controllable in that you cant control it PER kitpiece? In other words, is it in a separate kontakt instrument where you can control the total ambience, OR is the ambience within the kitpiece instrument itself, and therefore not adjustable as a whole or individually. In other words, even on the ambient kits, is there one slider where I can control the total ambience for the entire kit?

This question applies to both multitrack and stereo kits. I will find out the answer when I download anyway since I have already joined the GB, but I'm just curious.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

For most people's needs I think the special stereo with individual outputs for each drum type are a good common ground


so we can apply different effects to each drum with these kits, in our DAW's...

excuse me if i've got it wrong....i'm a tired boy, this evening

[Squids]

For most people's needs I think the special stereo with individual outputs for each drum type are a good common ground


so we can apply different effects to each drum with these kits, in our DAW's...

excuse me if i've got it wrong....i'm a tired boy, this evening

Yes, in fact it is easier to apply effects to each drum in this special stereo/multichannel version than the discrete mic mixing multitrack versions because in that version if you want to process a snare you have to decide if you want to process the snare direct mic or the bottom mics, the overhead mics or the various ambient mics... a bit more complex! But more flexible for those that actually want those options (particularly engineers and producers). For most people... it's a whole lot easier just to process the snare! Plus there are advantages to processing the snare or any other kit piece that already has it's blend of mics as I was mentioning above.

I really think that it's mostly going to be a situation where if you already know about multitrack mic mixing and like it then you may go that route in the upgrading. OR if you are new to it and happen to like what you can do with the extra kits in this... a good introduction and way to compare by using it and seeing what can be done (not to mention the tips and tricks we'll be showing Drum Masters/EpiK DrumS users next year with major producers' participation).

But, if you don't want to expand into that area then to get more variety of samples in this special stereo/multichannel type is going to be possible with the Drum Masters 2 Signature Kit Series. We have two volumes coming out next month which these kits come from (so you'll be able to upgrade to either of them for $99 off! Not bad) and then if you want to get even more kit pieces in that format we're going to have all new samples in a volume dedicated just to snares or just to cymbals etc. It'll be quite a collection one can amass of some serious sonic variety and one of a kind instrument samples you can't get anywhere else... like those vintage jazz cymbals I was talking about earlier and all sorts of cool stuff.

[hydemusic]

For me personally, I happen to like both. I like the speed and efficiency of just using this combo stereo/multichannel without mic mixing. If I was playing an e-Drum kit I would probably prefer these. If I was producing an album and creating a drum track for it then I might prefer the multi-track discrete mic mixing ones but both would still be handy.

Hope that helps you and anyone else wondering about it. Also, I think that these special stereo kits are a good place to start (and you certainly get some great variety in this package). But the fact that you all are getting at least one and maybe more Multitrack kits as a bonus in this group buy then you'll have a chance to see the difference first hand... and that's an even better way to know if it's for you.

Agreed...having both to use will give me the opportunity to play with. Then I'll really see the advantage of the MT like you said. I already have the MT kits and grooves in DM 1 and see the advantage there. It's very generous of to give us the MT. I appreciate that.

[Squids]

Squids,

Is the ambience not separately controllable in that you cant control it PER kitpiece? In other words, is it in a separate kontakt instrument where you can control the total ambience, OR is the ambience within the kitpiece instrument itself, and therefore not adjustable as a whole or individually. In other words, even on the ambient kits, is there one slider where I can control the total ambience for the entire kit?

This question applies to both multitrack and stereo kits. I will find out the answer when I download anyway since I have already joined the GB, but I'm just curious.

Well it is different depending on whether we're talking about the discrete multitrack kits or the stereo/multichannel kits of this group buy (apart from the bonus which includes the other). So I will talk about both:

For the STEREO/QUASIMODO :

In this group buy you have the stereo kits with individual level, pan and effects processing for each kit piece. A kit piece is a "snare" or a "kick" or an individual "tom" etc. You ALSO have some impulse response ambience that you can apply like you would a reverb (so each kit piece has a "send" to this effect and then you have a return at the bottom next to the mixing for the levels of the drums). So in that way you can add a variety of "convolution" ambience to the dry and medium mix kits... not as useful on the kits that already have ambience mixed in though. For those there isn't anything you can do about making them less ambient. But they sound great because they have the real ambience of the live room in the sample which IS better than convolution. Just less flexible.

For the MULTITRACK with discrete mic mixing (bonuses in this group buy and something you find in the full version of the main Drum Masters 2, OWD Gold etc.):

All of the kits can be mixed to be dry, medium or ambient yourself. You DO have control of the actual room mics per kit piece as well as overall too at the bottom (like a mix buss). So total flexibility for ambience with the Multitrack kits.

Does that help?