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Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:23 pm

birrbits wrote:Ok, im confused...Daft Punk is dance? or even trance for that matter....

"Dance" is sort of an umbrella covering everything electronic pretty much. Even Massive Attack could be called "Dance".

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:27 pm

Dance is the stuff that used to fill three aisles in your local HMV.

griels · Post by **griels** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:28 pm

birrbits wrote:Ok, im confused...Daft Punk is dance? or even trance for that matter....

I believe a number of people have performed rhythmic motions to Daft Punk tunes, yes. Whether this qualifies as 'dance' I shall leave to your discretion

Hunter · Post by **Hunter** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:33 pm

I think the trance scene is still pretty good in Australia? With all your bush doofs, rainbow serpents etc.

No idea how to make money from it though, best of luck though. I wouldn't write it off though.

Orbitutle · Post by **Orbitutle** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:49 pm

I 'think' most artists in the trance genre make the most money from live sets.. Not that many sales thease days..

jinx · Post by **jinx** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:00 pm

non commercial trance is in a stage of evolution at the moment

it is posible to make money, but not very much, remix work used to pay better.

Rusty Shackleford · Post by **Rusty Shackleford** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:29 pm

There's money to be made in dance music still, if you're dealing with the right labels. If you're selling a track to a label that presses 500 units then you likely won't see a huge amount of cash unless your track is signed to a CD compilation that happens to do well(and this does happen fairly often). On the other hand if you're dealing with a larger label like Black Hole or Bedrock, then a single release could generate a decent chunk of change for your work.

Often people working in the more underground styles of electronica, especially genres such as hardcore, psytrance or hard dance(but equally true in all genres I suppose), won't make much money off signing records to labels, and if money is a principal motivation they will do live PAs or DJ as a means of making money.

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snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:50 am

trance is so deeply rooted in subculture that it can never die...it's like classical, will stay for ever...now, in what form, that's another question.

Of course, the kind of trance tunes spinning today won't stay for long, but as a genre it's been around since tribal man chanted and smoked corn pipes...ehm..much like today I guess.

DWb · Post by **DWb** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:02 pm

snooky wrote: Of course, the kind of trance tunes spinning today won't stay for long, but as a genre it's been around since tribal man chanted and smoked corn pipes...ehm..much like today I guess.

Indeed. From the Museum of Techno, a while back:

Luoyang, China: Jin dynasty 303 discovered
16 Jul 2003

The Museum has received news that a complete early 303 has been found by archaeologists from Nanjing University conducting excavations in the Luoyang district of China.

The age of artefacts found in close proximity to the Bassline suggest that it dates back to the Jin dynasty (CE 265 - 420) and as such may be one of the oldest intact asian acid boxes discovered.

The co-ordinator of the dig, Professor Zhang Liangtao, immediately announced in a press conference an ambitious plan to attempt to restore the instrument to full working order:

The next steps in our research now become clear: first, to show that techno, in a form recognisable to our modern sensibilities, had spread deep into Asia by the time Buddhism reached China - or, indeed, pre-dated Buddhism in this region; and second, to burn the floor with scorch-marks of pure acieed.

The Museum's curator, Dr Donald Wiltshire, commented:

Fair plays to the feller, geezer knows his f**king acid, y'know? Some of his theories are controversial - particularly in the West, and there's perhaps a hint of international politics involved in fuelling that controversy - but that guy can thrash a crowd, live, with a 303, and a 909, and f**k all else, every f**king time, and that's no word of a lie.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:12 pm

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:43 pm

very funny you two, but like it or not trance will stay in one form or another...now, If we could get rid of these genres (below) we'd all be much happier humans:

RAP
HIPHOP
RNB
POP
ROCK
METAL
COUNTRY
SOUL
FUNK
BLUES
AMBIENT BOLLOX (ALÁ KVR)
and any other genre that you can't really listen to...

birrbits · Post by **birrbits** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:50 pm

ok so people danced (or made movements

) to Daft Punk...did not know that
hmmm

sonarman · Post by **sonarman** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:53 pm

Please take Blues,funk and soul off your list!
You have no hope as a composer if can't appreciate blues.
Some might say that 'trance' is ambient bollox (some but not me).

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:12 pm

sonarman wrote:Please take Blues,funk and soul off your list!
You have no hope as a composer if can't appreciate blues.
Some might say that 'trance' is ambient bollox (some but not me).

Hmm... depends what you mean by "appreciate"?
I can "appreciate" that it was some of the first rhythmic music ever done and that a lot of today music can more or less be traced back to Blues, but I can not "appreciate" Blues as in "woah, what a great genre of music".
And I don't see why one can't be a great IDM, Trance or Death metal composer if one can't appreciate Blues?

Any trance artists on here that make money from music?