Is there a plugin that will slow down playback?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 382 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Fair NJ, the Garden State, US
Thanks everybody!
I think eztime_stretch is the answer. The samplerate thing would work, except that I'm at 44.1 now so there's nowhere to go but up -- and that makes things faster. SX3's timestretch would also work, except that goes by % and not by BPM. This results in some very hard math: expand by 104%, and then to get back to normal you need to compress by 97.873828299511% or whatever. A brighter mind than mine could find a math relationship for stretching and shrinking by workable numbers, but I can't think of how to approach that problem.
Will report how EZTime-stretch works out.
I think eztime_stretch is the answer. The samplerate thing would work, except that I'm at 44.1 now so there's nowhere to go but up -- and that makes things faster. SX3's timestretch would also work, except that goes by % and not by BPM. This results in some very hard math: expand by 104%, and then to get back to normal you need to compress by 97.873828299511% or whatever. A brighter mind than mine could find a math relationship for stretching and shrinking by workable numbers, but I can't think of how to approach that problem.
Will report how EZTime-stretch works out.
Grist for the glamour mill.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 382 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Fair NJ, the Garden State, US
Oops. Too bad. EZTime-stretch is pitch-accurate, so it won't work for what I want.
Everybody understands what I'm trying to do, right? It's an old trick: slow down the tape machine playback while tracking a vocal, so the whole song's a little lower. Then when you playback at full speed, the singer's 'hitting' the high notes they couldn't get otherwise.
Seems much simpler than tapestop or pitch-accurate time-stretch, but I can't figure out how to do it . . .
Everybody understands what I'm trying to do, right? It's an old trick: slow down the tape machine playback while tracking a vocal, so the whole song's a little lower. Then when you playback at full speed, the singer's 'hitting' the high notes they couldn't get otherwise.
Seems much simpler than tapestop or pitch-accurate time-stretch, but I can't figure out how to do it . . .
Grist for the glamour mill.
- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 382 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Fair NJ, the Garden State, US
TapeStop is a great plugin, but it stops the playback completely. You can set the rate at which it stops, but can't set it to slow down and play at a slower rate, right?
Grist for the glamour mill.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
your best bet is to just open the backing in a sound editor and setting the sample rate lower. i very much doubt you'll find a plugin that you can just plonk on the end of a track to slow everything down for long (it will need to keep remembering what it has heard to keep it coming out slower, which will gradually need more and more memory).
just load it up in a wave editor and make yourself a slower copy. set the sample rate to a lower one, then if your host doesn't allow you to import files of different sample rates, resample your slowed copy to the original sample rate (this time preserving duration). it's a sure-fire method.
just load it up in a wave editor and make yourself a slower copy. set the sample rate to a lower one, then if your host doesn't allow you to import files of different sample rates, resample your slowed copy to the original sample rate (this time preserving duration). it's a sure-fire method.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
oh i forgot about goldwave's Doppler. might not do it all but a fun toy nonetheless
- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
well some people don't read thread titles... I read only thread titles and not the threadbobby yarrow wrote:TapeStop is a great plugin, but it stops the playback completely. You can set the rate at which it stops, but can't set it to slow down and play at a slower rate, right?
sorry
- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
vtx wrote:I like that thing but could never figure out how to render the effectmultree wrote:Tape Stop
TapeIt
or automation
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- Tunesmith
- 2889 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Toronto
me too my fellow ontarian. i figured that something like Tobybear's ChannelGrabber is essential for grabbing stuff like that effect as well as other random ones like Livecutvtx wrote:I like that thing but could never figure out how to render the effectmultree wrote:Tape Stop
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Aye, used to do it 'back in the ,ahem, days'. Surely it would be easier to do it by pitch-shifting though; use a temporary copy of the backing track shifted down a tone or whatever, do the singing, then shift the singing up by the the same interval using a pitch shifter that preserves length, missus. (tried it using the 'elastique' algo in FL, worked ok). Of course you'll get the 'but it makes me sound like a girl' effect without using some manner of format shifting (e.g melodyne), but that was always the case with slowing down the tape.bobby yarrow wrote:
Everybody understands what I'm trying to do, right? It's an old trick: slow down the tape machine playback while tracking a vocal, so the whole song's a little lower. Then when you playback at full speed, the singer's 'hitting' the high notes they couldn't get otherwise.
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
i don't know if you can find pv transpose anymore, but i used it once to give my guitar extra frets. i automated it to make a note higher. there's mda detune, but i've heard it has problems with automation
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
You can still get it here:androidlove wrote:i don't know if you can find pv transpose anymore, but i used it once to give my guitar extra frets.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/~masrwd/pvplugs.html
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 382 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Fair NJ, the Garden State, US
That's just what I was going to say. I've done both . . . tho I try not use tapestop too often, as I suspect it's going to sound really cheesey in about 5 years.multree wrote:vtx wrote:I like that thing but could never figure out how to render the effectmultree wrote:Tape Stop
TapeIt
or automation
Grist for the glamour mill.
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- KVRist
- 176 posts since 22 Jul, 2005 from United Kingdom
I hate to repeat myself, but this tape-thing, emulated digitally, is exactly what I described in my earlier post...bobby yarrow wrote:Everybody understands what I'm trying to do, right? It's an old trick: slow down the tape machine playback while tracking a vocal, so the whole song's a little lower. Then when you playback at full speed, the singer's 'hitting' the high notes they couldn't get otherwise.
Please tell me if I should describe it in an easier way...
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