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Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:19 am

bto was a couple years later then 70

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:24 am

Of course they were.

Randy Bachman played with The Guess Who before BTO, and Garnet Amplifiers have made production-model amplifiers since 1966.

Sooooo...

Not sure what you're getting at, but I absolutely agree: BTO came at least a few years after 1970.

Greg

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:27 am

Lunch Money wrote:Of course they were.

Randy Bachman played with The Guess Who before BTO, and Garnet Amplifiers have made production-model amplifiers since 1966.

Sooooo...

Not sure what you're getting at.

Greg

no I'm wrong randy bachman never played in bto robin bachman and randy murray were in bto...

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:29 am

Nono, you're absolutely right-- it WAS Randy Bachman. I'm just saying that BTO's existence doesn't change the fact that I have a Garnet amp that the Garnet registry dated back to being a 1969 or 1970 model.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:34 am

I dont dispute the amp but

BTO is C.F. Turner, original lead vocals and bass, Blair Thornton, original lead guitar vocals, Robin Bachman, original drummer and Randy Murray, lead and vocals joined 1991. 30 Years ago when BTO released their first LP in May 17, 1973 they had no idea that would enter them into the category of, CLASSIC ROCK.

http://www.btorocks.com/

which is news too me and I was a BTO fan, ironically this is the second mistake about the band I have made...for years I was sure it was joe lynn turner...

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:37 am

I don't care what that website says, it was Randy Bachman.

Robin Bachman is his brother, who played drums. Perhaps the bio is just talking about the current lineup or something?

Greg

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:38 am

Lunch Money wrote:Nono, you're absolutely right-- it WAS Randy Bachman. I'm just saying that BTO's existence doesn't change the fact that I have a Garnet amp that the Garnet registry dated back to being a 1969 or 1970 model.

Weren't Garnets Canadian made? Don't know if there was any connection with L&M like Traynor, but I know that L&M had Garnets as their rental amps. Poverty stricken high school bands used to rent Garnets for their one nighters. Great for playing 'American Woman' with!

I remember seeing those things around 1980 in Vancouver and they looked trashed then, and were in fact 10-12 years old at that time.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:42 am

Yes, they were made in Winnipeg.

I don't know much about Traynor amps, but I wouldn't be surprised if L&M stocked a bunch of Garnets for rental.

I actually love the lead tone on American Woman, but you can't reproduce it with THIS Garnet, I'll tell you that much. It might just need new tubes (I didn't get a hold of it until many years past its prime), but it's nothing but a fizzy piece o' crap. Fizzy like the sample posted by Andrew.

Greg

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:44 am

Lunch Money wrote:I don't care what that website says, it was Randy Bachman. Robin Bachman is his brother, who played drums. Perhaps the bio is just talking about the current lineup or something?

Greg

It is-if you look at the band members pics on the home page, Randy Bachman isn't even listed there.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:50 am

Lunch Money wrote:I don't care what that website says, it was Randy Bachman. Robin Bachman is his brother, who played drums. Perhaps the bio is just talking about the current lineup or something?

Greg

indeed, thank god I thought I was losing my mind....googled randy bachman and got this.

Randy Bachman
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Born in Winnipeg, Canada, Randy Bachman has become a legendary figure in the rock and roll world through his talents as a guitarist, songwriter, performer and producer. He has earned over 120 Gold and Platinum album/singles awards around the world for performing and producing. His songwriting has garnered him the coveted #1 spot on radio play lists in over 20 countries and he has amassed over 40 million records sold. His songs have been recorded by numerous other artists and placed in dozens of television, movie and commercial soundtracks. His music has provided a veritable soundtrack of the last thirty years of popular music.

He first scored Billboard radio chart success with his band The Guess Who in 1965 performing the song Shakin' All Over. After this initial success it would be another few years before the glare of the spotlight would be cast upon these young Canadian boys again. Sticking it out through some misadventures paid off for the band and they worked their way back up to the top of the charts in a spectacular way. This time, The Guess Who went on to virtually own the pop charts with an unprecedented run of 5 million-selling singles, all the product of the gold plated Randy Bachman-Burton Cummings songwriting team. By 1970, The Guess Who had sold more records than the entire Canadian recording industry to that point, even outselling the Beatles that year. Their hits included These Eyes, Laughing, Undun, No Time, No Sugar Tonight and American Woman.

Due to health concerns and desiring a change in lifestyle, which would include spending more time with his young family, Randy left the Guess Who at the height of their success. While this move stunned the music world, Randy knew that he could never leave music behind. He formed Brave Belt - a county rock outfit in 1970 and experimented with a new musical style and line up that eventually metamorphosized into Bachman Turner Overdrive.

Unbelievably, Randy's success with Bachman Turner Overdrive would eclipse his earlier triumphs and give him yet a third run at the pop music charts.

darcyb62 · Post by **darcyb62** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:51 am

Randy Bachman was part of the band:

http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloP ... urner.html

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:52 am

Lunch Money wrote:Yes, they were made in Winnipeg.

Ah Winterpeg-there's the conection. Randy Bachman was from Winnipeg, so I guess Garnet got an endorsement out of him.

I actually love the lead tone on American Woman, but you can't reproduce it with THIS Garnet, I'll tell you that much.

I have a hunch that this was one of those endorsement deals where Randy had a Garnet stack on stage and a miked Marshall Plexi 1/2 stack behind stage. I never heard no damn Garnet sound that good!

Hmm..think he also used some kinda fuzz pedal on A. W.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:25 am

Here is a clean setting with the same plug.

http://www.andras-shimon.com/TEMP/MysteryClean.mp3

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:30 am

stash98 wrote:is it a real cheap guitar..like a fender squier?...its not good.

That's funny, you couldn't be more wrong.
It's a semi hollow Epi dot 335 but it does sound thin here.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:34 am

Andrew you did not answer my questions

A3ntar wrote:AndrewSimon, how did you get ahold of the DSM technology review from IK, and how where did you acquire the sim/sample?

I still don't like the sound, but if they nailed the sound their are trying to reproduce than this is more exciting than I thought it would be

Mystery Guitar Amp-Sim - (yes another one) LISTEN!