Looking For A Multi Band Compressor
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- KVRAF
- 3412 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london
I agree with 4damind and Johny Mumra.
But if you must use a multiband then use Voxengo's Soniformer.
But if you must use a multiband then use Voxengo's Soniformer.
Every day takes figuring out all over again how to f#ckin’ live.
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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- Banned
- 23 posts since 4 Nov, 2005
ay its Jonny.
Just kidding who cares LOL
Just kidding who cares LOL
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- KVRist
- 382 posts since 6 Apr, 2005 from Fair NJ, the Garden State, US
There's a real anti-MB thing among the ME's I know, these days. I think the best of them reject multiband, but do it the hard way, with parallel eqs and compressors. I don't master, but I've heard some pretty thin sounding masters come back from ME's who are dead set against MB.4damind wrote:Mmh, a multiband its not a must have for mastering, but it can help to preserve a transparent sound.
There's no easier way to get the low-end really hitting than multiband. Tho, as I say, I hardly ever use it, being a mix guy.
Grist for the glamour mill.
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- KVRAF
- 3723 posts since 17 Apr, 2002 from Scotland
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
It's a good one too - and IL have licensed it so there'll be a native version in the FL6
I also like the Buzzroom compressors quite a bit - definately check those out.
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- KVRist
- 204 posts since 10 Mar, 2005
Soniformer is very good for it. Hard to describe exactly what it will do but it is essentially a 32 band compressor which kind of takes it into the realms of EQ i suppose. None the less an excellent tool even for quick mastering for testing.
- KVRAF
- 6478 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Soniformer is the only multiband design that has zero crossover phase distortion. It's that much more transparent.
Doesn't hurt that it's got in orders of 2 or 3 more bands than the others.
I doubt there's anything better for fixing M/S stereo dynamics either.
Doesn't hurt that it's got in orders of 2 or 3 more bands than the others.
I doubt there's anything better for fixing M/S stereo dynamics either.
- KVRAF
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Soniformer... mmh, thats more a dynamic equalizer, a thing like the sonalksis DQ1? I would not use it at all, only for special mastering stuff or where mixes are very bad and there is no chance to make the mix better.
Could be I'am wrong, but mastering should not make dramatic changes in the mix. sometimes a little more highs with a good EQ (tritones hydratone or the glissEQ) if the mix has not enough, because there are not enough sounds in the higher frequencyrange.
Could be I'am wrong, but mastering should not make dramatic changes in the mix. sometimes a little more highs with a good EQ (tritones hydratone or the glissEQ) if the mix has not enough, because there are not enough sounds in the higher frequencyrange.
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- KVRist
- 204 posts since 10 Mar, 2005
Well with Soniformer because you can have threshold, attack, ratio, release controls over each of the 32 bands then it is more like a dynamic EQ but it is worth noting that if this is too much then it can be slipped into 3 band mode as well.
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- KVRian
- 1214 posts since 2 Jun, 2004 from Québec, CANADA
Same with me, I use c3 multiband a lot. This has been quite a discovery for me, there are my mixes before, and after I started using c3.
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- KVRAF
- 2049 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Seattle USA
Kingston - did you mean to say "has NO zero crossover phase distortion"?Kingston wrote:Soniformer is the only multiband design that has zero crossover phase distortion. It's that much more transparent.
ED: Haha - now I know what you meant - you're saying Soniformer has NO crossover distortion...I'm so dense Kingston...
On another note I wouldn't call Soniformer a dynamic EQ, at least not in the Sonalksis sense of the term. The DQ1 is a pretty different beast both in sound and operation. Tuning the DQ1 is really different also. Soniformer is usually the only multiband I leave in a chain when I use one. It is very transparent for slowing down the inertia of certain little scraggly resonances that poke out of the mix - right before it hits the mastering limiter.
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- KVRAF
- 2217 posts since 15 Jul, 2003
the origon of the Sonitus plugs now offered by Cakewalk, I believe, is from Ultrafunk, not Waves
CW bought it out. I believe they were already under at the time.
for a multiband compressor I use Voxengo Polysquasher -- 3 or 4 very useful presets with some tweaking
if I have my drums already sounding like I want I avoid using a multiband compressor on the master cause it wreaks havoc on the already compressed drums (they get brittle with no body) -- then I go back and work up each track individually. since I've been working with less drums I've been going back to the laziness of Polysquasher on the master out with GlissEq and Elephant
I prefer GlissEQ on the master out to Soniformer. Soniformer works better for me on individual tracks. seems backwards, but sounds better to me. GlissEQ does some wonders with transients which are nice to bring some sparkle through the master stage
CW bought it out. I believe they were already under at the time.
for a multiband compressor I use Voxengo Polysquasher -- 3 or 4 very useful presets with some tweaking
if I have my drums already sounding like I want I avoid using a multiband compressor on the master cause it wreaks havoc on the already compressed drums (they get brittle with no body) -- then I go back and work up each track individually. since I've been working with less drums I've been going back to the laziness of Polysquasher on the master out with GlissEq and Elephant
I prefer GlissEQ on the master out to Soniformer. Soniformer works better for me on individual tracks. seems backwards, but sounds better to me. GlissEQ does some wonders with transients which are nice to bring some sparkle through the master stage
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- KVRist
- 421 posts since 12 Jun, 2004


