Favorite basic LP filter plugin?
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Some other useful and oft overlooked ones are the Phasic PHenvFilter and the filters in the xhipeffects pack.
It's good you brought this up, I'd been meaning to clean up some of the crap I'd collected in my filter folder, deleted a good dozen or so tonight.
It's good you brought this up, I'd been meaning to clean up some of the crap I'd collected in my filter folder, deleted a good dozen or so tonight.
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- KVRAF
- 1651 posts since 14 May, 2002 from Earth
For me it's definately OHMYGOD!
It comes with CM magazine and in my opinion it alone is worth more than the cost of the mag. It's labeled as a comb filter, but you can turn the comb section off and use it as a regular filter with a few different types, resonance, distortion and an LFO for every parameter.
Then if you want to get into the comb filtering it's pretty fun as it will let you play the pitch of the comb from your midi keyboard. it's basically build on Frohmage but with a better filter (as the cut off goes to 20480) and a lot more options.
It comes with CM magazine and in my opinion it alone is worth more than the cost of the mag. It's labeled as a comb filter, but you can turn the comb section off and use it as a regular filter with a few different types, resonance, distortion and an LFO for every parameter.
Then if you want to get into the comb filtering it's pretty fun as it will let you play the pitch of the comb from your midi keyboard. it's basically build on Frohmage but with a better filter (as the cut off goes to 20480) and a lot more options.
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
i'll be releasing a new version of my effects pack (xhipeffects) soon, and that'll have the widest range and most 'perfect' (smooth, no strange effects applied) filter in existance. the max cutoff is 42% of the sample rate, so 48k will give you 20k cutoff. the resonance is absolutely stable from total zero to 100% oscillation. its possible to overdrive to get the same effects as with typical 'analog' filters, (although no saturation/distortion happens, the effect is more based upon the active region of the oscillation being adjusted.) and its absolutely stable with only a tiny bit of cpu use. also 100% scalable to any sample rate from 100hz to 10mhz, and i'll be implementing midi input for my effects template so keyboard tracking and various other options (env following, etc) will become available in future versions.
*tease*
6 (no feedback/resonance) 12db, 18db, 24db and 48db modes available, with low/high/bandpass/peak/notch/bandcut modes.
demos:
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/kk.mp3 <-- overdrive wth high res
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/mr.banana.mp3 <-- clean with med res
mp3 ruins it;
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/kk.wav
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/mr.banana.wav
*tease*
6 (no feedback/resonance) 12db, 18db, 24db and 48db modes available, with low/high/bandpass/peak/notch/bandcut modes.
demos:
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/kk.mp3 <-- overdrive wth high res
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/mr.banana.mp3 <-- clean with med res
mp3 ruins it;
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/kk.wav
http://xhip.cjb.net/temp/mr.banana.wav
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Thanks for the kind words about Betabugs!
BugPass actually has no resonance, though. It's meant for 'frequency elimination' but not resonance; ie, to help tracks find a place in a mix or to cut out unwanted frequencies.
CrayonFilter or SVF2 are the ones you want by BetabugsAudio.
I just love the character of both those filters, though I admit I don't use 'creative' filter effects all that much. SVF2 allows you to glide between different filter types, too, with the stereo channels independent from one another, which is wicked-cool.
It's worth mentioning another plug-in by BBA, Moneo. Much more than a simple stereo-manipulation tool, it also has choosable low- or high-pass filters for each channel. Left could go hi-pass, right could go low... vassevah you want.
Sorry for the sales pitch... it's not like I actually have anything to "sell" since it's freeware. I just really like the work done by our devs.
BugPass actually has no resonance, though. It's meant for 'frequency elimination' but not resonance; ie, to help tracks find a place in a mix or to cut out unwanted frequencies.
CrayonFilter or SVF2 are the ones you want by BetabugsAudio.
It's worth mentioning another plug-in by BBA, Moneo. Much more than a simple stereo-manipulation tool, it also has choosable low- or high-pass filters for each channel. Left could go hi-pass, right could go low... vassevah you want.
Sorry for the sales pitch... it's not like I actually have anything to "sell" since it's freeware. I just really like the work done by our devs.
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AdmiralQuality AdmiralQuality https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=83902
- Banned
- 6657 posts since 10 Oct, 2005 from Toronto, Canada
My favorite filter effect is also free (and is also my first VST effect)
http://admiralquality.dynu.com/vstdev/?favfilt
Howling resonance, output saturation control, selectable 6 to 24 db/oct slope, LPF and HPF modes, and an envelope follower to make it auto-wah (etc.)
Supports up to 6 ins/outs too. Each channel has an independent envelope follower so you can get some cool stereo or surround effects.
If you try it, please let me know what you think.
http://admiralquality.dynu.com/vstdev/?favfilt
Howling resonance, output saturation control, selectable 6 to 24 db/oct slope, LPF and HPF modes, and an envelope follower to make it auto-wah (etc.)
Supports up to 6 ins/outs too. Each channel has an independent envelope follower so you can get some cool stereo or surround effects.
If you try it, please let me know what you think.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2029 posts since 21 Jul, 2004
Which has the most classic dirtiest sound!!!!!!? im thinking mu-ziq's lunatic harness album at the moment. or some early squarepusher for example.
Do not lick the fablanky
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
you'll need something like a korg35 or simmilar (non-ota) analog filter. no software does that correctly yet. 90% of analog filters dont do that. i'd suggest putting out the 150 bucks and getting yourself a ms-10, or parker stiener synthicon, or other lesser known synthesizer with unique qualities. it is worth it, since most of the time you can sell it for the same as you bought it.
analog gear is doing down the shitter in terms of price right now though, couple years nobody will want it anymore.
analog gear is doing down the shitter in terms of price right now though, couple years nobody will want it anymore.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2029 posts since 21 Jul, 2004
I tried out yours admiral and it is nice! I also liked the one I tried before yours. (cant remember at the moment). Then I tried squarefilter and it crashed the host but I liked what I heard. bout to try the others....... Okay like greenfilter a lot, really easy to change parameters
and stuff. I was playing with the SVF2 which is awesome but my host crashed again. Ill test more I guess when I get a stable environment thats not some crazy buzz scheme.
Do not lick the fablanky
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2029 posts since 21 Jul, 2004
Im not talking synth im talking the LP on the hats and breaks. but uh, I guess half of the deal is what is fed into it.aciddose wrote:you'll need something like a korg35 or simmilar (non-ota) analog filter. no software does that correctly yet. 90% of analog filters dont do that. i'd suggest putting out the 150 bucks and getting yourself a ms-10, or parker stiener synthicon, or other lesser known synthesizer with unique qualities. it is worth it, since most of the time you can sell it for the same as you bought it.
analog gear is doing down the shitter in terms of price right now though, couple years nobody will want it anymore.
Do not lick the fablanky
- KVRAF
- 12615 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
you know, originally nobody cared as much about the "analog warmth" or other bullshit like that :)
the whole cool thing about analog gear is: you can put anything through it. both synthesizers i mentioned do a very good job as effects processors.
the whole cool thing about analog gear is: you can put anything through it. both synthesizers i mentioned do a very good job as effects processors.
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- KVRist
- 380 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from Pyrlandia
funkadil, korg ms series synths are semimodular. you can feed their filter with whatever you want. with a help of a small mixer you can even make sick feedback loops 
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- KVRAF
- 8717 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
MS10, Orgon Enigiser, MS20 filters in that order.
Software? Hmmm....I haven't really heard one that I can use for any occasion yet. They generally all disappoint me. Strangely enough, the one I find myself returning to again and again (especially for drums, as they were mentioned) is StepFliter included still with Cubase. I think it was an MDA plugin? It just affects the main frequencies you want fiddled with in a very musical way.
Tonic gets a fair bit of use too - mainly because of the overdrive it has - it's no massive filter, but it sounds musical somehow - which digital seems to find very difficult to attain in the realm of filters (and I like s/w, I truly do...). I've demoed most of the fancy ones, and they just don't do it for me - they either have good dirty resonance but sound too weak and lose the dry signal, or sound powerful but have nasty whiney digital resonance. No doubt I'll be hung drawn and quartered, but even the Ohm Force stuff has never done it for me with filters.
You just can't beat throwing stuff at an MS20 and playing with knobs and patches and tearing up the peak. I do prefer the MS10 filter (earth-shattering subbass on that one!) but the MS10 was too useless for instrument playing because of the poor tuning stability, so I got shut of it years ago. A real shame that...with the benfit of hindsight, I would have kept it just as an outboard FX unit. Can't find one for love nor money here though.
Software? Hmmm....I haven't really heard one that I can use for any occasion yet. They generally all disappoint me. Strangely enough, the one I find myself returning to again and again (especially for drums, as they were mentioned) is StepFliter included still with Cubase. I think it was an MDA plugin? It just affects the main frequencies you want fiddled with in a very musical way.
Tonic gets a fair bit of use too - mainly because of the overdrive it has - it's no massive filter, but it sounds musical somehow - which digital seems to find very difficult to attain in the realm of filters (and I like s/w, I truly do...). I've demoed most of the fancy ones, and they just don't do it for me - they either have good dirty resonance but sound too weak and lose the dry signal, or sound powerful but have nasty whiney digital resonance. No doubt I'll be hung drawn and quartered, but even the Ohm Force stuff has never done it for me with filters.
You just can't beat throwing stuff at an MS20 and playing with knobs and patches and tearing up the peak. I do prefer the MS10 filter (earth-shattering subbass on that one!) but the MS10 was too useless for instrument playing because of the poor tuning stability, so I got shut of it years ago. A real shame that...with the benfit of hindsight, I would have kept it just as an outboard FX unit. Can't find one for love nor money here though.
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- KVRAF
- 8717 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
Big EDIT:
Doh!
How could I forget that one? (Probably because I don't actually own it yet)...CamelSpace. When I get around to it I'm going to buy that one as top of my to-do list. I actually was really impressed with it. I haven't extensively played around with it on instruments yet, but it sat extremely well with drums. Even without all the other fancy FX on, it gives a warmth to drums that most others can't get close to. I can see myself using that extensively just as a colouriser without much resonance. Plus the added bonus of all the other FX
Yeah...for s/w filters - CamelSpace then StepFilter. That'll do for me.
Doh!
Yeah...for s/w filters - CamelSpace then StepFilter. That'll do for me.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
What's Tonic?kritikon wrote:Tonic gets a fair bit of use too...which digital seems to find very difficult to attain in the realm of filters
And what kind of music do you make? This isn't meant as criticism in any way, but I'm always surprised when people say things aren't musical to them. For me and what I do, I've never met a sound I couldn't put to musical use. So some background might help me understand where you're coming from.



