Holy sh*tballs
- KVRAF
- 11380 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
This pretty much shows exactly what the Pod is good for. It always has been awesome at creating those huge chunky walls (try layering up to 8 guitar tracks playing the same riff but using variations of amount of strings used. That is, first riff pure 5th, second only the base note, third the full 5th+octave etc). Good sounds there mate!
I'd say most guitar emulators can get these heavy "chugga chugga" tones with some tweaking but where the thing gets problematic is if you want that classic rock/blues/jazz, slightly breaking up kind of tone that reacts to the playing. No can do with a Pod.
Cheers!
bManic
I'd say most guitar emulators can get these heavy "chugga chugga" tones with some tweaking but where the thing gets problematic is if you want that classic rock/blues/jazz, slightly breaking up kind of tone that reacts to the playing. No can do with a Pod.
Cheers!
bManic
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- KVRist
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- 144 posts since 20 Sep, 2005 from AB, Canada
I disagree bmanic.
Quality High gain models are the holy grail of the amp sim world. Hence all the hoopla over the 5150 for midiworks sim.
Realistic tube high gain has proven to be the most difficult tone to emulate.
Quality High gain models are the holy grail of the amp sim world. Hence all the hoopla over the 5150 for midiworks sim.
Realistic tube high gain has proven to be the most difficult tone to emulate.
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- KVRAF
- 8519 posts since 7 Apr, 2003
Sounds f**king great man. Are the patches compatible with a guitarport with all the model packs? If so can you export it?prizo wrote:So I was sittin around thinking... why choose 1 guitar sound over the other.. why not overlay them?
So I DID.
The result is very nice indeed.
And, for those who wanted to know, its a POD XT.
Also it sounds like your drop-d?
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- KVRist
- 333 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Brazil
Well, that's what I like the most...Paulie Phonick wrote:Only the end of the riff sounds a bit weird with the guitar playing triplets and bass drum three plain 16ths.
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Tucson Arizona USA
Some would argue that the best or only way to do this is by turning up the amp until the gain stages do it for you. It's easy, it's cheap, and it's a reason to be jealous of guys who are in places where they can do it. I wish I had a room big enough for my Fender DeLuxe. My amp is big enough to play a 2500 seat auditorium by the time it gets crunchy. Pisses me off to no endbmanic wrote: where the thing gets problematic is if you want that classic rock/blues/jazz, slightly breaking up kind of tone that reacts to the playing. No can do with a Pod.
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 8 Jul, 2005 from NY, US
GOD I love the sound of electric guitars!
- KVRAF
- 11380 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Well, you are entitled to your opinion but having owned a Pod (and several other amp sims) since it first came out and reading the various forums dedicated to it, it seems to be the easiest "tone", by far, to achieve. The reason being that most high gain guitar sounds on albums are tracked many many times or sometimes they have several stacks with different microphones on each of them and record them all at the same time (equal to double tracking except it's very precise). Then you eq it to taste and squash the living shit out of everything with the final limiter. Voila, instant high gain sound. Now comparing a pod preset to a live "wall of amps" sound could be hard but that's simply because the pod can't emulate that many amps in one go. Try connecting your guitar to 4x Pod and you are already much closer. The "tone" itself is not hard to achieve, you just need a lot of Pods.prizo wrote:I disagree bmanic.
Quality High gain models are the holy grail of the amp sim world. Hence all the hoopla over the 5150 for midiworks sim.
Realistic tube high gain has proven to be the most difficult tone to emulate.
Now, where the true problem lies (imho) with any amp modelling is to replicate dynamics and how the amp reacts to playing style, pick angle and preassure. Just a simple screaming pinch harmonic is much harder to execute on a POD than a real amp, not to mention controlled feedback (try connecting your pod to a stereo system and getting easily controlled feedback..)
Deep and dynamic clean sounds and on-the-edge-of-breakup blues tones have been the biggest problems with Line6 products (again IMHO and what most people on the old Pod forum used to bitch about). They simply sound static and somehow detached from the player. Like there was the slightest of latency and some weird static compressor killing the dynamics. Almost like choking the tone instead of rumbling the house.
However, on a record it's less of a problem as you can't really hear 'the feel' but it's hard to lay down a good lick when the sound/feel doesn't inspire to play.
Cheers!
bManic
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- KVRAF
- 2694 posts since 11 Nov, 2005 from http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Massena,+NY --(on the Canadian border)
well, the newer pods are different -- but i will say, I love the sound of the peavey classic 30 turned waaaay up 
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- KVRAF
- 2356 posts since 30 Sep, 2003 from Sunny Staffordshire
I agree with bmaniac, the emulators are not good are reproducing a valve crunch. I did some A/B tests with my Pod XT and Marshall Bluesbreaker - the combo had it in abundance, while the Pods sounded shite.
The Pod, however, can fake hi gain sounds very well, ESPECIALLY if you can arrange a good few takes into layers. Obviously its not the same as a wall of maxed out stacks, but in many circumstances it can get you by just fine.
The Pod, however, can fake hi gain sounds very well, ESPECIALLY if you can arrange a good few takes into layers. Obviously its not the same as a wall of maxed out stacks, but in many circumstances it can get you by just fine.
- KVRAF
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
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- KVRian
- 1442 posts since 30 May, 2005
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