Tape Effect
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
well that just gose to show we shouldent beleave what we read on forums
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- KVRian
- 587 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
try a tape impulse and a compressor with a ratio of 1 to 4 adjust the threshold to produce a gain
reduction of around 5dB on peaks. thats it! ok one more thing try a plugin that adds harmonics like sweaty.
reduction of around 5dB on peaks. thats it! ok one more thing try a plugin that adds harmonics like sweaty.
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- KVRian
- 886 posts since 2 Jun, 2005 from Hawaii
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- KVRian
- 1305 posts since 26 May, 2003 from im müscha...
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- Banned
- 59 posts since 4 Apr, 2005
yEAH!!! NoMaD PLuGz!! wOw, yes, THE BOMB!!!
Totally great shit there. (Although , still not a real tape dump, back to PC,)
NOTHING will ever beat the Phyco-Acoustic shit that happens to music, when it meets
the friction of a piece of tape, rolling 'under' a tape head. NEVER.
Totally great shit there. (Although , still not a real tape dump, back to PC,)
NOTHING will ever beat the Phyco-Acoustic shit that happens to music, when it meets
the friction of a piece of tape, rolling 'under' a tape head. NEVER.
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- KVRAF
- 2818 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 83 posts since 23 Dec, 2004
OK, it doesn't look like there's anything that I can simply strap across a track, so let's take a look at how this can be achieved using different plugs... and PLEASE limit your suggestions to freeware.
This is what I think I know and what I think I don't know (about what I think I know)...
1. Tape should loose some highs. Anybody know what EQ settings I could use to approximate a state of the art studio reel-to-reel circa 1971? And would this be cumulative? Would they have lost more highs at each step, i.e. mixdown and mastering?
2. Tape Hiss. OK, a white noise generator should work. This would definitely be cumulative, each track would have hiss, at mixdown they'd all get added together. So, would I need to apply some EQ to the white noise? At what db level should it be added to each track? Again, trying to achieve the sound of a 70's studio deck, NOT a home deck! Anybody know anything about this?
3. Tape saturation. Would Ruby Tube work for this? If not, what would? What settings? How much saturation was actually used back then? Think prog rock, ELP etc. Would it be used on every track, 1 or 2 tracks or across the whole mix?
4. Wow and Flutter. I've got the plug by the same name but I suspect that there would be no appreciable W&F. Am I wrong in this assumption? Would a very light setting be reasonable?
Is there anything I'm missing here? Need some DETAILED help guys, freeware/donationware only.
This is what I think I know and what I think I don't know (about what I think I know)...
1. Tape should loose some highs. Anybody know what EQ settings I could use to approximate a state of the art studio reel-to-reel circa 1971? And would this be cumulative? Would they have lost more highs at each step, i.e. mixdown and mastering?
2. Tape Hiss. OK, a white noise generator should work. This would definitely be cumulative, each track would have hiss, at mixdown they'd all get added together. So, would I need to apply some EQ to the white noise? At what db level should it be added to each track? Again, trying to achieve the sound of a 70's studio deck, NOT a home deck! Anybody know anything about this?
3. Tape saturation. Would Ruby Tube work for this? If not, what would? What settings? How much saturation was actually used back then? Think prog rock, ELP etc. Would it be used on every track, 1 or 2 tracks or across the whole mix?
4. Wow and Flutter. I've got the plug by the same name but I suspect that there would be no appreciable W&F. Am I wrong in this assumption? Would a very light setting be reasonable?
Is there anything I'm missing here? Need some DETAILED help guys, freeware/donationware only.
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- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
record it on tape and put it back into the PC.... good da/ad converters would be a plus
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 83 posts since 23 Dec, 2004
FREE PLUGS people! Not hardware. Free. Plugs.
Revolverb doesn't show up in the database, would SIR work? Why no hiss, had studios licked that by 1971? More details would be much appreciated.
try a tape impulse and a compressor with a ratio of 1 to 4 adjust the threshold to produce a gain
reduction of around 5dB on peaks. thats it! ok one more thing try a plugin that adds harmonics like sweaty.
wsaidah I'm having trouble understanding your posts.2 plugs one impulse! classic compressor and revolverb! beimal made some studer impulses forget the hiss and tape Wow and Flutter set the compressor to read my early post
harmonics like sweaty.
studer impulses
Revolverb doesn't show up in the database, would SIR work? Why no hiss, had studios licked that by 1971? More details would be much appreciated.
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- KVRian
- 587 posts since 18 Jul, 2004
Revolverb is a free plug do a search here or go to noisevault and do a search! classic compressor is a free plug and beimel has the studer a80 tape impulses. do a search at noisevault for the studer impulses. ok the (1) first thing you need to do after you get the plugs and the impulses is insert classic compressor set the ratio to 1.0.4, set the attack to the fastest setting and set the release between 300 ms and 500 ms. adjust the threshold to produce a gain reduction of around 5 dB on peaks. the (2) second thing you need to do is insert Revolverb load the impulse turn the dry off and adjust the wet slider to your liking. that's it ! one more thing you might like the ratio set to 3.0.1! sweaty is a vst that adjust harmonics do a search here to find it.
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- KVRist
- 117 posts since 3 Apr, 2005
Well ..... crap. So someone should make a really complex vibrato plug-in with drawable lfo's etc. They'd make BILLIONS!Kiwburger wrote:Quote:
It's not really the developers fault though, because the way VST works there is no way to do REAL vibrato as a plug-in, you could probably find something in the DXi realm that might work better
Total bollocks. Although I suspect the source of this misinformation was the Isotope Vinyl site? I seem to recall they released a VST version that didn't do some of the things that the DX version did - for some reason that doesn't seem at all reasonable.
There are zillions of VST plugins that can do vibrato (frequency modulation) of all sorts. It is the very basis of flanging and chorus. Many flangers can have the wet/dry balance altered to give just vibrato.
Kjaerus Golden Modulator does a good vibrato, with tempo sync, phase offest and choice of waveforms.
I would impulse buy a really good stictly vibrato plug-in for at least four mil US. I'm not being sarcastic to be disagreeable btw... I really -want- a good vibrato vst plug-in but have yet to see one.
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- KVRist
- 421 posts since 12 Jun, 2004
Haven't find any impulses on noisevault ..wsaidah wrote:beimel has the studer a80 tape impulses. do a search at noisevault for the studer impulses.
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Freeware: AIPL from Warmtone
TBT Saturated Driver
My Mag
Freeware Compressor like Volcano etc.
Commercial-Software: I like Plug like Hydratone (Fire-Knob) and Voxengo TapeBus. Also in different combinations. Inflator is good to emphasize the overall presence. With TapeBus cou have compression and the possibilty to attenuate the highs. Fire-Knob of Hydratone brings more saturation and drive effect.
Also Plugs like PSP Mixsaturator are good for this task (or VW)
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 5 Jan, 2006 from Kingston, Sweden