SONAR 5.2 Free Update Now Available

[whyterabbyt]

Envelope automation to effect.... need to investigate more, some weirdness, might be a non-sonar issue though

Sorry, I mean which plugins arent getting automated properly. I spent an hour or so trying various things at random, and nothing I tried had problems. If you lemme know what isnt working on yours, I can try it here, if its something Ive got...

[Hunter]

Envelope automation to effect.... need to investigate more, some weirdness, might be a non-sonar issue though

Sorry, I mean which plugins arent getting automated properly. I spent an hour or so trying various things at random, and nothing I tried had problems. If you lemme know what isnt working on yours, I can try it here, if its something Ive got...

I've not tried that one again.,, need to invesigate some more, its a beta version of something so can't draw conclusions

Also getting the dreaded dropouts on a track that used to work fine, just Cyclone and imposcar, cpu no more than 18% but get dropout every few bars , the annoying thing is it is a track I was going to record live automation on over several minutes but it's dropping out too much

[Ed]

As per my previous post, It's going off a bit at the Cakewalk forum with this update. I've had to go back to 5.1 to cure the dropout issue, and as for adding an effect to each vst output so it stays in time on a loop, well, not what one would expect from professional software.
At the moment, there's not much advice on the cakewalk forum for the dropout issue, other than roll back.Like I said, unless you NEED the updates, I'd stay put - I for one have wasted a load of time on this, just to end up back where I was.

[Hunter]

As per my previous post, It's going off a bit at the Cakewalk forum with this update. I've had to go back to 5.1 to cure the dropout issue, and as for adding an effect to each vst output so it stays in time on a loop, well, not what one would expect from professional software.
At the moment, there's not much advice on the cakewalk forum for the dropout issue, other than roll back.Like I said, unless you NEED the updates, I'd stay put - I for one have wasted a load of time on this, just to end up back where I was.

Oh you're kidding, so the dropout thing is a real major issue?

I don't keep an eye on the cakewalk forums as I find it a bit 'cliquey' (sp?) there. I'll check this out tomorrow. I can't face a rollback as the previous bug about envelope automation makes the previous versions a nightmare .

Its such a shame that the 'walk are going for the big-bucks annual whole-version-updates instead of ensuring each version works adequately before updating. I don't care if it still says Sonar 3 on it as long as everything actually works as it should

[Hunter]

Problem is that many, but not all of issues I had with piano roll is fixed. If I roll back, I'd roll back all the way to 4.

4.02 seems to be the best it's been for a while

[Hunter]

Wow, just checked out the Sonar forum, seem to be some issues... some of which I've come across in one evening already, eg sudden crashes and audio dropouts , damned if I'm rewinding to 5.01 though

[Ed]

Yeah, saw you there Hunter

See what I mean abou issues now

I have rolled back to 5.1, as I just can't work with the droputs. I appreciate your sentiments though, one fixed, another broke. I'd be surprised if a maintenance fix is not quickly forthcoming - apparently Ron Kupper has emailed a few of the bods there saying the issues will be looked at after the weekend - maybe we'll get some joy then.

Ed

[Hunter]

Yeah, saw you there Hunter

See what I mean abou issues now

Yeah, they go back for pages and pages! I wonder what happened, if they released it before testing it properly or something?

I have rolled back to 5.1, as I just can't work with the droputs. I appreciate your sentiments though, one fixed, another broke. I'd be surprised if a maintenance fix is not quickly forthcoming - apparently Ron Kupper has emailed a few of the bods there saying the issues will be looked at after the weekend - maybe we'll get some joy then.

Ed

yeah I'm sure they don't want to release buggy updates, hopefully they'll fix things

[Jed]

It only seems to affect some users - I tracked and mixed all day yesterday on 5.2 without incident.

And the 5.2 enhancements work really well

Cheers
Jed

[Hunter]

It only seems to affect some users - I tracked and mixed all day yesterday on 5.2 without incident.

And the 5.2 enhancements work really well

Cheers
Jed

it also depends what you're doing. Now I've moved to another project that's not got any looping in it, and I've had no problems at all.

however looping is essential to the way I and many others write

[Alex Westner]

Hey guys,

We're currently investigating the issues reported on our forum.

Many of these issues have turned out to be user error or installation issues, but a few of them seem to be real bugs that we may need to address.

We'll keep everyone posted, of course, but the vast majority of our customers are very happy with this free 5.2 update right now.

[Hunter]

Hey guys,

We're currently investigating the issues reported on our forum.

Many of these issues have turned out to be user error or installation issues, but a few of them seem to be real bugs that we may need to address.

We'll keep everyone posted, of course, but the vast majority of our customers are very happy with this free 5.2 update right now.

Hi Alex,

try setting up a simple project, eg I set one up with Cyclone and impOSCar, and make it loop over say 4 bars, and you might replicate the dropout thing that has sprung up since 5.01, at least that makes it happen for me. Basically, every few repetitions of the loop you get a sudden dropout. 'part from that I've no other concrete bugs that others have reported on the forum

[xylyx]

My projects seem to loop okay and without dropouts; however, if I mute a track while it is playing back, it can result in dropouts even though my cpu is only showing around 30% usage.

I wish there was a way to prevent Sonar from turning the engine off...I'd much rather have a brief audio breakup than have the entire engine turn itself off for a brief cpu spike...

[Alex Westner]

Hey guys,

We're currently investigating the issues reported on our forum.

Many of these issues have turned out to be user error or installation issues, but a few of them seem to be real bugs that we may need to address.

We'll keep everyone posted, of course, but the vast majority of our customers are very happy with this free 5.2 update right now.

Hi Alex,

try setting up a simple project, eg I set one up with Cyclone and impOSCar, and make it loop over say 4 bars, and you might replicate the dropout thing that has sprung up since 5.01, at least that makes it happen for me. Basically, every few repetitions of the loop you get a sudden dropout. 'part from that I've no other concrete bugs that others have reported on the forum

Yup, that's a known issue that does have a workaround.

From the SONAR 5.2 Readme file:

"When looping a VST(i) alongside a DX(i), the VST(i) may sometimes playback earler after a loop boundary. The workaround for this issue is to insert an effect (even a bypassed effect) on the tracks which are sourcing the VST(i) output."

You can even turn on the built-in track EQ and bypass it and that should resolve the issue without any additional CPU overhead.

[xylyx]

Is this an adapter issue? Just wondering as P5 has started messing up when looping, which I don't recall happening prior to updating Sonar...