KVR Audio

aallvor · Post by **aallvor** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:13 pm

More elitist rants against FLS... I can't take it anymore

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:15 pm

on another note, does anyone know if there is a standard difference between the audio in containers and codecs like AVI, MPG, MPEG2,3,4 etc...

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:15 pm

Okay, Ableton Live is on V6, and was released 10 months after Reason.

But then, perhaps he'll take issue with their IDE, "Props, Steinberg and everyone else codes only from command line, using an IDE like Ableton is easy and too fast, yada yada yada."

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:18 pm

laputa_sync wrote:on another note, does anyone know if there is a standard difference between the audio in containers and codecs like AVI, MPG, MPEG2,3,4 etc...

yeah, they're known as pan laws.

laputa_sync · Post by **laputa_sync** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:22 pm

Kingston wrote:
laputa_sync wrote:on another note, does anyone know if there is a standard difference between the audio in containers and codecs like AVI, MPG, MPEG2,3,4 etc...
yeah, they're known as pan laws.

thanks!!!

which is teh bestest?

The Recycle Bin · Post by **The Recycle Bin** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:25 pm

John Vulich wrote:I believe that he's the resident twat.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:27 pm

laputa_sync wrote:
Kingston wrote:
laputa_sync wrote:on another note, does anyone know if there is a standard difference between the audio in containers and codecs like AVI, MPG, MPEG2,3,4 etc...
yeah, they're known as pan laws.

thanks!!!

which is teh bestest?

this one should be easy,

it's called H.E.P.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:30 pm

John Vulich wrote:Pretty funny for a guy talking about 2 programs that are both essentially just toys anyway.

Presumably then you will disapprove of the formal partnership between Ableton and Propellerhead that is being strongly rumoured in the industry...?

At least FL Studio, can record audio, send midi to hardware synths, and host VST/VSTis!

Any host can do that

I don't see your point...?

Virtual instruments designed around a hardware paradigm (e.g. Minimonster, Reason, Pro53, etc) tend not to do those things. It's not what they do.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:49 pm

headquest wrote:Virtual instruments designed around a hardware paradigm tend not to do those things. It's not what they do.

Vaz Modular does, and there's nothing stopping other such things from doing the same other than designer choices. But then Vaz too is only on v3, and of course not available on the Mac.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:03 pm

Just out of interest, exactly what difference DOES it make that FL is coded in Delphi (not heard about this before...) - a non-techie answer would be interesting...?

ludwig · Post by **ludwig** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:05 pm

headquest wrote:
At least FL Studio, can record audio, send midi to hardware synths, and host VST/VSTis!
Any host can do that I don't see your point...?

Reason can't... (sorry couldn't resist)

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:09 pm

ludwig wrote:
headquest wrote:
At least FL Studio, can record audio, send midi to hardware synths, and host VST/VSTis!
Any host can do that I don't see your point...?
Reason can't... (sorry couldn't resist)

Yes, but the point that seems to elude a lot of people is that Reason is not a host. It is a modular instrument.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:10 pm

headquest wrote:Just out of interest, exactly what difference DOES it make that FL is coded in Delphi (not heard about this before...) - a non-techie answer would be interesting...?

C++ aliases less and sounds more pro.

translation : bugger all difference.

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:12 pm

headquest wrote:Just out of interest, exactly what difference DOES it make that FL is coded in Delphi (not heard about this before...) - a non-techie answer would be interesting...?

Nothing really. Delphi compiles to executable speeds comparable to C/C++ and can use inline ASM (assembler code) just like C or C++. In fact, depending on the compiler, Delphi compile times (how fast the compiler actually turns the written code into native code) can often be faster as well.

C is more widespread, probably due to it's predominant teaching in Universities (some switched their courses to Java, but many went back to C/C++ again) and its substantial use in industries such as Electrical Engineering, etc.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:13 pm

headquest wrote:Just out of interest, exactly what difference DOES it make that FL is coded in Delphi (not heard about this before...) - a non-techie answer would be interesting...?

It makes your mixes sound "fluffy".

Pretty stupid comment from Propellerhead stuff memeber on FL