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Barf · Post by **Barf** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:41 am

...just checked their site again, seems to be a new e-piano available:

http://www.plugindex.com/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=53

amiga909 · Post by **amiga909** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:13 pm

-> 'licence': the plugindex subscription was free at the beginning, not sure if you had to pay later if already registered. on the user side I dont see any harm, since you cannot (with a clear conscience) sell VibraphoneTS anyway?!

-> custoMade publicitiy: custoMade probably put their vst's on plugindex for promotional purposes, and not to make money in the first instance. I really see no offense if you redistribute it privately, there is more of a gain in publicity for custoMade which lets a long forgotten vst shine again in the spotlight.
it surely would be decent to drop a mail to the dev, if possible. hence I am pretty sure they will be delighted to hear VibraphoneTS is still popular. I clearly doubt they plan to rerelease a commercial version - based on the informations here, plugindex and madtracker.

SWTrex · Post by **SWTrex** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:20 pm

Some of you folks fail to understand...

Whether or not it's ok to distribute this plugin (or any other piece of software with a similar license) has nothing to do with "how can the person who owns the copyright lose?", or "it was free to begin with", or "But it's now abandonware, is it not?". Your conscience does not dictate what is right or wrong in this case.

It's purely a legal issue.

pljones nailed it:

pljones wrote:People who own copyright lose.

If copyright can be violated at anyone's choice, then it becomes meaningless and hence worthless. All your intellectual property turns to dust.

End of story.

SWTrex

MacScott · Post by **MacScott** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:25 pm

pljones wrote:Careful with those quotes...

Ooops, sorry. That didn't come out right at all did it?

amiga909 · Post by **amiga909** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:31 am

SWTrex wrote:Some of you folks fail to understand...

Whether or not it's ok to distribute this plugin (or any other piece of software with a similar license) has nothing to do with "how can the person who owns the copyright lose?", or "it was free to begin with", or "But it's now abandonware, is it not?". Your conscience does not dictate what is right or wrong in this case.

It's purely a legal issue.

pljones nailed it:
pljones wrote:People who own copyright lose.

If copyright can be violated at anyone's choice, then it becomes meaningless and hence worthless. All your intellectual property turns to dust.
End of story.

SWTrex

end of story? unfortunately the law+order geeks seem to be totally wrong this time.
dropped a mail at plugindex and they told me VibraphoneTS is free and can be redistributed without any problems.
b4 you call next time a lawyer use ur common sense

publicradio · Post by **publicradio** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:58 am

OK great so can someone give it to me then?

afreshcupofjoe · Post by **afreshcupofjoe** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:02 am

My god this is retarded. How do you people live with such huge sticks crammed up your asses? It's unbelievable.

SWTrex · Post by **SWTrex** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:28 am

amiga909 wrote:
SWTrex wrote:Some of you folks fail to understand...

Whether or not it's ok to distribute this plugin (or any other piece of software with a similar license) has nothing to do with "how can the person who owns the copyright lose?", or "it was free to begin with", or "But it's now abandonware, is it not?". Your conscience does not dictate what is right or wrong in this case.

It's purely a legal issue.

pljones nailed it:
pljones wrote:People who own copyright lose.

If copyright can be violated at anyone's choice, then it becomes meaningless and hence worthless. All your intellectual property turns to dust.
End of story.

SWTrex
end of story? unfortunately the law+order geeks seem to be totally wrong this time.
dropped a mail at plugindex and they told me VibraphoneTS is free and can be redistributed without any problems.
b4 you call next time a lawyer use ur common sense

If you would care to re-read the license statement, it says

"Unauthorized use and distribution of all the plugins as they are
shown on PlugIndex is prohibited (either on CD or on the net)."

If you get the authority from the copyright holder (which it sounds like you have...) then you have the right to distribute it as the copyright holder allows.

The law+order geeks are still totally right...

Show me the email, and I'll be glad to upload the plug...

SWTRex

Optomadic · Post by **Optomadic** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:07 am

Barf wrote:...just checked their site again, seems to be a new e-piano available

Sorry but that has to be the worse epiano I think I've ever heard

..

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:31 am

afreshcupofjoe wrote:My god this is retarded. How do you people live with such huge sticks crammed up your asses? It's unbelievable.

It's just ordinary reflexes. You won't believe it how nice and confy the stick I got shoved up my ass is. Ok it hurted me alot when it was done but now I just stick to it.

Back to topic. As I suspected this plugin is a freeware plugin. If I had it then I would upload it. But I think it is time that the law geeks can see the email, so show it to us.

Barf · Post by **Barf** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:47 am

Optomadic wrote:
Barf wrote:...just checked their site again, seems to be a new e-piano available
Sorry but that has to be the worse epiano I think I've ever heard ..

What did you expect from someone with a name like mine?

TristezaOrange · Post by **TristezaOrange** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:50 pm

Optomadic wrote:
Barf wrote:...just checked their site again, seems to be a new e-piano available
Sorry but that has to be the worse epiano I think I've ever heard ..

I love the lower and mid-range of the oldy1 preset, just lovely. Other than that, it's a bit... not-very-good-sounding.

amiga909 · Post by **amiga909** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:17 pm

SWTrex wrote: Show me the email, and I'll be glad to upload the plug...
SWTRex

mail:
"
I asked:
'Hallo liebes Plugindex-Team
Im KVRaudio Forum ist die Frage aufgetreten, was mit den alten custoMade
vstis ist. Konkret geht es um custoMade VibraphoneTS? Um eine Klärung
wären wir dankbar.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177355
'
Answer from u.waldenburger[AT]plugindex:
'VibraphoneTS ist Freeware. Wer es hat , kann es gerne weitergeben!

Grüße
Uwe (plugindex.de)
'
"

translation: vibraphoneTS is freeware. if you got it, you can gladly pass it down to somebody else.

I dont have a licence myself...

hope this means we can put it on gersic.com?

jobromedia · Post by **jobromedia** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:53 pm

Thanks for clearing this out and I believe this. Since I can some deutch myself I understood the most of it.

Barf · Post by **Barf** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:11 pm

TristezaOrange wrote:
Optomadic wrote:
Barf wrote:...just checked their site again, seems to be a new e-piano available
Sorry but that has to be the worse epiano I think I've ever heard ..
I love the lower and mid-range of the oldy1 preset, just lovely. Other than that, it's a bit... not-very-good-sounding.

It has some usefull sounds, just not sounds that sound like an e-piano I guess...

looking for vsti vibraphone