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geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 9:20 am

If its poosible not to increase gui size, please...
I guess you still dont want to move settings from registry to INI file, but do you remember about fixing the problem when registry settings are erased (plug ask for the paths->doesnt work).
thx

relayer2001 · Post by **relayer2001** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:46 pm

One of the things I like in Rainbow, but don't use a lot, is the step sequencer. For me it's not overly intuitive. I would prefer some form of pop-up selection box for each step rather than a rotary dial. That way I can easily see what the previous step was without clicking on the dial and accidentally changing the setting - fumble fingers talking here.

What would also be cool is the ability to use the step sequencer to control stuff like cutoff, reso or volume.

Well that's my 2cents worth.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Thu Aug 21, 2003 1:55 pm

Is there a tutorial on the Rainbow step sequencer. I still can't make sense of it.

Thanks,
Gordon

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 11:23 am

Yippee! Rainbow is going to get something added and improved… its great being a Big Tick customer.

Thanks Big Tick

Regards,

Spe3d

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Sat Aug 23, 2003 11:26 am

Beardedone wrote:Is there a tutorial on the Rainbow step sequencer. I still can't make sense of it.

No tutorial yet, but if you have any questions feel free to ask.
'Tick

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 12:27 am

Thanks Big Tick,

My first question is simple. How do I activate the step sequencer and how do I control the tempo?

Gordon

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:25 pm

OK, here we go:

1) Start from an empty preset (right-click, and select "Clear Patch")
2) Select the sine waveform from OSC, 1and set OSC1 output level slider to the max
3) Set OSC1 sustain to 0

At this point playing a note will make a plain "ping" with a sine wave. That's good enough for testing the step sequencer.

4) Select one of the small green buttons to the lower left, just below the small "length" knob (for instance, the one that says "2")

Playing a note now plays the first 4 steps of the sequencer - because the step number 4 is highlighted.

5) Change the first 4 knobs of the step sequencer to hear the effect
6) Change the small "length" knob to hear the effect on the length of individual steps
7) Change the small "tempo" knob to change the sequencer speed. Turning this knob to the max synchronizes the sequencer with the host tempo.

Hope this helps,
'Tick

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:36 pm

OK no wonder I couldn't figure it out.

Thanks Big Tick. I will go through this .... slowly

Cheers,
Gordon

Cow_zar · Post by **Cow_zar** » Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:02 pm

Rainbow needs an overhaul on the way it looks.

Instead of having the Rainbow go down the screen - it should go across.

Its a very nice synth, that should probably have a lot more attention, but I do think its the way it looks - it can be overwhelming.

Big Tick · Post by **Big Tick** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:04 pm

Hmmm. So you guys want more features... But other ones want a smaller interface... And nobody wants a tabbed interface like Rhino... All this sounds like "déja vu"....

'Tick

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:59 pm

All this sounds like "déja vu"....

I am not bothered by it anymore. It’s had it’s day.

Regards,

Spe3d

Cow_zar · Post by **Cow_zar** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:05 pm

Well, I gotta download the RHINO demo and take a look at it - the interface looks very good to me......so i can't comment.

In the end, as a developer BigTick, take everything onboard, and find something in between.

Either way, if the interface is done to WHAT you would like to do with it - I think everybody would be happy.

Maybe you could do a "lite" version - where it concentrated on just subtractive synthesis.....just an idea...

Cheers
Brian,

ksn · Post by **ksn** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:06 pm

so, any plans Tick ?

Muff Wiggler · Post by **Muff Wiggler** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:48 pm

well as a fan of Big Tick, I'll put my 2 cents in here...

I don't own Rainbow, nor Rhino... I do own EP Station (and *love* it), and Angelina.

By the time I was looking into Big Tick's offerings, I already had some very good subtractive synths. I felt that Rainbow wasn't offering me anything I didn't have already. ( I didn't know it had a step-sequencer, though, cool! )

I even emailed Tick about it, and he said I was probably correct.

Well, this is sort of a sad state. I remember indeed that Rainbow was one of the original serious subtractive VSTi synths.

So, what can I offer? I'm not sure, at least in terms of concrete features, but hopefully I have some good advice....

A lot of people, there are sort of like me. They don't need another subtractive. Maybe they have also chosen an additive, and a sampler, and a drumsynth, and maybe even an FM synth or two that they like. I know that I'm in that boat. Now to get my interest, the synth has to have something pretty unique about it. Do something so that Rainbow is not just 'another subtractive'.

I think of z3ta's circular osc modulation when it came out, or the waveshaper. I think of Symptohm's incredibly cool syncgrain sampling osc's, or Vertigo's..... well all of vertigo. When it came out it was totally unique to me.

Angelina's the same thing, I bought it almost immediately. Rhino also, very unique, very powerful. Haven't bought it yet, tight on money right now and it's a bit pricier than most of my purchases.. (Tick, any chance for an 'existing customer' discount?

)

Anyway, an update to Rainbow should include something to make it totally unique, to set it apart from the pack, and give people who already own a similar synth a reason to want to use Rainbow to get new sounds.

What could it be? I don't know. Play up the step sequencer, I didn't even know it was there. maybe make it a real powerful one. The step sequencer in ABL is fun because you can select patterns with MIDI and the pattern change is instant, instead of at the end of the bar. This lets you come up with all sorts of new patterns by playing your existing ones.

What else? Well I can be obvious and say that you should invent some cool new sort of filter type that will create all sorts of new sound possibilities. Debut it in Rainbow 3, and then people will be interested. Add a fractal-based oscillator, I don't know, I'm not a synth designer

Anyway, I think you get my point.... give us something fresh and we will want to see what's on the other side of the Rainbow...

SuitcaseOfLizards · Post by **SuitcaseOfLizards** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:32 pm

relayer2001 wrote:One of the things I like in Rainbow, but don't use a lot, is the step sequencer. For me it's not overly intuitive. I would prefer some form of pop-up selection box for each step rather than a rotary dial. That way I can easily see what the previous step was without clicking on the dial and accidentally changing the setting - fumble fingers talking here.

What would also be cool is the ability to use the step sequencer to control stuff like cutoff, reso or volume.

Well that's my 2cents worth.

I'd love it if the step sequencer could control more stuff! You can do that in some other synths but the ones I'm aware of are SynthEdit VSTi and are not terribly CPU-friendly.

I'll vote for keeping it to the FM/AM/digital range, I see Rainbow as a compliment to Rhino and not a "rhino lite" thing myself. I own Rainbow, Angelina, and Rhino and each should stay "true to it's nature" whatever that might mean.

BigTick

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