John McLaughlintapper mike wrote:Jimi Hendrix
Guitar Players who are great at "Phrasing"
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- KVRist
- 363 posts since 18 Oct, 2003 from UK in t'north canny good like
+1 Robben Ford. Pagey in places, eg Since I've been loving you
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- KVRist
- 34 posts since 24 Feb, 2005 from Thessaloniki, Greece
Nuno Bettencourt is really inventive, when it comes to meaningful phrasing. Though Extreme was not my type of thing, I always found his guitar work with them adventurous and fascinating..
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 17 Jul, 2006 from Not Toronto.. that's for sure
+1duncanparsons wrote: Steve Hackett, thinking in particular of his work on 'Selling England by the Pound', but there are others in his solo and the Genesis repertoire.
Gary Green with Gentle Giant.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see how many prog rock fans there are at KVR
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- KVRian
- 809 posts since 24 May, 2005
+ 1CWoodOne wrote:John McLaughlintapper mike wrote:Jimi Hendrix
Also Alvin Lee
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- KVRAF
- 2028 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from New York, N.Y.
I noticed that, too...pretty cool!asbfly wrote:+1duncanparsons wrote: Steve Hackett, thinking in particular of his work on 'Selling England by the Pound', but there are others in his solo and the Genesis repertoire.
Gary Green with Gentle Giant.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see how many prog rock fans there are at KVR
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
I defenitely second Robben Ford (one of my alltime favourites).
But then, I think, apart from some "pure" shredders, almost all of the wellknown guitar players have excellent phrasing abilities.
I don't like folks like Vai and Satriani too much anymore, but they certainly phrase excellent, even if sometimes a bit too "educated". Same goes for Mr. "I invented speed sweeping" Frank Gambale - actually, once those players reach "stardom" for whatever their special technical abilities might be, it seems to be forgotten that quite some of them are most excellent in phrasing.
However, if you want some insights on phrasing, Scott Henderson is the man (if you don't mind the particularly awful backing):
and even better:
A recent player I like a lot is Andy Timmons:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=KaVVZYOvMFY
What I like a lot about him is, that, unlike Vai and Satriani, who simply reproduce their album solos, he's actually improvising.
A great german player is Thomas Blug, just listen how much he's getting out of that Strat...
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=V4A5GdBTj ... re=related
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=3l2oz_htG ... re=related
Oh well, and of course one other of my alltime favourites, George Benson.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ncHXNPE ... re=related ("The World Is a Ghetto" - while you're at it, listen to the fantastic Harvey Mason on drums and how his playing "locks" with the guitar solo at the end)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=LN_D64AJR ... re=related
I could probably think about tons more.
Outside of guitar world, I can't think of someone phrasing any better than George Duke. His treatment of timing and melodic development is almost unrivalled.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9dY6hs9 ... re=related (of course you could do much worse than with Steve Ferrone (dr) Louis Johnson (bg) and Paul Jackson Jr. (g))
Unfortunately I couldn't find some of my favourites of him.
But then, I think, apart from some "pure" shredders, almost all of the wellknown guitar players have excellent phrasing abilities.
I don't like folks like Vai and Satriani too much anymore, but they certainly phrase excellent, even if sometimes a bit too "educated". Same goes for Mr. "I invented speed sweeping" Frank Gambale - actually, once those players reach "stardom" for whatever their special technical abilities might be, it seems to be forgotten that quite some of them are most excellent in phrasing.
However, if you want some insights on phrasing, Scott Henderson is the man (if you don't mind the particularly awful backing):
and even better:
A recent player I like a lot is Andy Timmons:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=KaVVZYOvMFY
What I like a lot about him is, that, unlike Vai and Satriani, who simply reproduce their album solos, he's actually improvising.
A great german player is Thomas Blug, just listen how much he's getting out of that Strat...
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=V4A5GdBTj ... re=related
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=3l2oz_htG ... re=related
Oh well, and of course one other of my alltime favourites, George Benson.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ncHXNPE ... re=related ("The World Is a Ghetto" - while you're at it, listen to the fantastic Harvey Mason on drums and how his playing "locks" with the guitar solo at the end)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=LN_D64AJR ... re=related
I could probably think about tons more.
Outside of guitar world, I can't think of someone phrasing any better than George Duke. His treatment of timing and melodic development is almost unrivalled.
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9dY6hs9 ... re=related (of course you could do much worse than with Steve Ferrone (dr) Louis Johnson (bg) and Paul Jackson Jr. (g))
Unfortunately I couldn't find some of my favourites of him.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 3864 posts since 29 Feb, 2004
Many players with great phrasing have already been mentioned, let me add some more :
-- Billy Gibbons
-- Brent Mason
-- Gary Moore
-- David Grissom
-- Larry Carlton
Cheers,
susiwong
-- Billy Gibbons
-- Brent Mason
-- Gary Moore
-- David Grissom
-- Larry Carlton
Cheers,
susiwong
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
+1, most defenitely!susiwong wrote: -- Brent Mason
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRist
- 407 posts since 23 Oct, 2006 from Northern New England
+1 for Henderson, Metheny, Ford, Carlton, (old) Van Halen, etc.
-1 for Garcia. Sorry; YMMV.
I'll add Rosenwinkel, maybe the coolest phrasing in jazz guitar to come along in awhile.
-1 for Garcia. Sorry; YMMV.
I'll add Rosenwinkel, maybe the coolest phrasing in jazz guitar to come along in awhile.
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- KVRAF
- 2545 posts since 22 Jun, 2004 from Paris. Well, not far.
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
true, phrasing's good, just needs to work on those bends...tapper mike wrote:Carlos Santana.
Oh yes, there are a few of us around who poke our heads up above the parapet once in a while. + the was, of course, the prog rock contest month in march last year - produced some fantastic tunes, all of which were keepers for me.jplanet wrote:I noticed that, too...pretty cool!asbfly wrote:+1duncanparsons wrote: Steve Hackett, thinking in particular of his work on 'Selling England by the Pound', but there are others in his solo and the Genesis repertoire.
Gary Green with Gentle Giant.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see how many prog rock fans there are at KVR
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Ah! Finally someone agreeing.duncanparsons wrote:true, phrasing's good, just needs to work on those bends...tapper mike wrote:Carlos Santana.
I've never been too much of a Santana fan due to that issue. And well, with the latest "events" you can hear him on, it's getting even worse. Looking for famous people to cooperate with, just to throw in the same old annoying licks whenever he can, pretty much spoiling the music.
Guess that age comes at a price...
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Sascha Franck wrote:Ah! Finally someone agreeing.duncanparsons wrote:true, phrasing's good, just needs to work on those bends...tapper mike wrote:Carlos Santana.
+1
he wasn't playing "laid back" in the 60s and seventies, he's downright rushing now. And while some of the collaborations weren't bad it's gotten worse.
phrasing: Derek Trucks
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