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Non-free version of Helix is

Poll ended at Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:25 pm

Good, it will likely make it better
42
56%
Bad, everything on the internet should be free
20
27%
Fish
13
17%
 
Total votes: 75

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Yes, the GUI should look good and improve its ease of use.

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wow does this synth sound incredible.

I sent you a few PMs.

Excellent synth. Get a pro designer for the gui and you have a sure fire winner on your hands.

Mike

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ckatrun411 wrote:I can't imagine Native Instruments coming out and saying, " Our gui will leave you puzzled. "
They don't need to say it, we already know. ;)

IMO, Minimonsta has the best interface ever designed for a synth, be it software or hardware (I'm talking about the layout and easy access to modulators, not the keys and faux wood paneling). I wish all synths were based on it.

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topaz wrote:Audio Unit and RTAS.
VST is the most widely used format and AU is coming up nicely. RTAS isn't worth going after, people who buy Mbox's generally don't add extra plug-ins and even fewer use synths.

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I realize now that the GUI needs improvements, point taken :) an AU version can come later, I will make sure the VST version works with wrappers. The price is a delicate issue, but I am sure it will be on the affordable end of the scale, especially with the crummy dollar.

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as long as the GUI gets a lift and the price is affordable, thats a direction i could embrace :tu:

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I voted good - it will be better.

I think this is excellant news actually, because I was fearing that you might stop developing it soon.

There are things I like about the GUI, although it is all well laid out, but in general I dislike it, mainly because of the envelopes, which I find difficult to understand and don't tie into my existing experience of synths.

I realised GUIs are a lot of work and you can't expect more when it's free. For a freeware GUI I think it's actually pretty good.

I was always puzzled by the open source freeware approach, as the sound was right up there with the likes of sylenth1 etc. and when something is really good I think the developer deserves to be rewarded.

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If you want P4 PC/WinXP SP2 Cubase 4.1.3 testing I'm ahhpy to help, but I expect you've got an abundance of XP/C4 people.

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JonasNorberg wrote:The price is a delicate issue, but I am sure it will be on the affordable end of the scale, especially with the crummy dollar.

Sounds great! :-)


I have one question. Are you from Europe? I thought you were from San Fran... I think that if you are from Europe this is great news. If you are you from the US then you need a quick rethink. Price your synth at market value. To the currency you pay your taxes in.

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I just want to leave this here... it really is fair and better practice to worry about market value than what currency you are getting your money in.

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ckatrun411 wrote:I have one question. Are you from Europe?
I'm a Swede living in US. Since I pay rent and buy food (that has not risen as much as the dollar has dropped) in dollars, a price in dollars will be more affordable for the rest of the world... I'm not sure if US or europe is the larger market though... anyways... enough economics... I'm off to make Helix work properly for PPC macs...

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Received email, thanks Jonas, and best of luck. :) :D:D
EDIT: :o :-o

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Hmm wasn't helix open source?

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Yeah, though judgin from the open-source repository, it doesn't look like anyone else was working on it other than himself.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/audjoo-helix
http://audjoo-helix.svn.sourceforge.net ... trunk/src/

So you could say, opensource is limited to last opensource version?

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ckatrun411 wrote:Has the GUI, changed at all..... By that I mean, dramatically!

Please excuse my honesty... I don't mean to hurt feelings at all. But, I like the synth... Would be very interested... Would need a proper GUI....



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Yeah, yeah... No question this is an amazing synth. But, man... arrg, I don't want to provoke animosity or anything, it is just the way I feel...


To me, this synth is the equivalent of getting inside of a porsche and not being able to find the steering wheel...
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000... :oops:
this is in my opinion the reason why it isn't yet one of the top instruments ever... amazing sounds, huge amount of possibilities, and an even bigger amount of time to find them.... :roll:
It's not what you use, it's how you use it...

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ckatrun411 wrote:Has the GUI, changed at all..... By that I mean, dramatically!

Please excuse my honesty... I don't mean to hurt feelings at all. But, I like the synth... Would be very interested... Would need a proper GUI....



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Yeah, yeah... No question this is an amazing synth. But, man... arrg, I don't want to provoke animosity or anything, it is just the way I feel...


To me, this synth is the equivalent of getting inside of a porsche and not being able to find the steering wheel...

Wholeheartedly agree with you. The GUI needs a complete overhaul.. less clutter stuffed and squeezed onto one panel and instead multiple panels with less riffraff.. using a 16:10 approach to the GUI panel shape.. (wider is better) :hihi: That alone (not changing the internals) would be worth 50 dollars imo...

The sound is incredible as it is.. I don't know what you could do to improve it :?: I think at this point the main issue is the GUI.. I rarely use Helix even though its currently free simply because the GUI is too difficult to operate. Every parameter is squeezed together and EXTREMELY tiny.

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a sensible price would be a sensible option, confucius said.
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