se:modular collection for £1?

[spacedad]

Looks interesting. A minor point about having each module as an individual VST plugin and relying on the host means that module-to-module feedback is likely out of the question, right?

Also, echoing what BONES said about your price point, £1 is way underselling yourself. If you're going to release at that point, you may as well give it away for the amount you'd make. I'm sure that more than 20% of the people who'd buy it at £1 would also buy it at a £5 (me, for example...)

hi,i'm glad you think it's worth a fiva. but i'm sure you'd still buy it for £1 wouldn't you?
and i'm sure some people would buy it for a pound but maybe stop and think if it was 5.
i'd rather more people try it than less.

i'm sure what you mean by module to module feedback? you mean actual feedback or customer 'feedback'?

[spacedad]

I played with this idea many years ago before SynthStudio Pack I. I think mine had the charming name of Capitalist Pig Modular or the like and was used by no one for more than 5 mins. While in theory it worked (my modules were more than 1 straight SE module wrapped) in practice it proved too cumbersome to be of any value esp. when there were free things that did better.

Maybe start free till the bugs are sorted and you have a fan base. Then you can up the ante and go payware.

hi benedict,just tried your pig,the ext eg wouldn't load,it gave 'nicfit' errors and filter.dll ID problems.
but anyways,i loaded the plugs and had a play.
i wasn't sure what should plug in where.but i did get some noise from it.
mine will be smaller and more low level.which should keep the cpu down.
which free things did you find that did it better?

[colin@loomer]

i'm sure what you mean by module to module feedback? you mean actual feedback or customer 'feedback'?

Actual feedback: things like feeding an oscillator's output back into itself so it can modulate its own pitch.

[Benedict]

I played with this idea many years ago before SynthStudio Pack I. I think mine had the charming name of Capitalist Pig Modular or the like and was used by no one for more than 5 mins. While in theory it worked (my modules were more than 1 straight SE module wrapped) in practice it proved too cumbersome to be of any value esp. when there were free things that did better.

Maybe start free till the bugs are sorted and you have a fan base. Then you can up the ante and go payware.

hi benedict,just tried your pig,the ext eg wouldn't load,it gave 'nicfit' errors and filter.dll ID problems.
but anyways,i loaded the plugs and had a play.
i wasn't sure what should plug in where.but i did get some noise from it.
mine will be smaller and more low level.which should keep the cpu down.
which free things did you find that did it better?

Hi Spacedad

Where did you get my old discontinued "Pig" modular from?

It doesn't surprise me if it doesn't work too well. There were, from memory, 2 or 3 paths MIDI, Audio and Modulation. Just like a normal modular really. You needed EXT 1.4 and to see all the plugs not just a stereo pair.

I did have it running fine for Monophonic stuff but at the time there was a freeware modular that beat mine hands down and my hardwired instruments could do everything anyway so I never really went further than proof of concept.

I do wish you well with your idea though.

[spacedad]

i'm sure what you mean by module to module feedback? you mean actual feedback or customer 'feedback'?

Actual feedback: things like feeding an oscillator's output back into itself so it can modulate its own pitch.

i see,i guess that would depend if the host allowed it.

[spacedad]

Where did you get my old discontinued "Pig" modular from?

It doesn't surprise me if it doesn't work too well. There were, from memory, 2 or 3 paths MIDI, Audio and Modulation. Just like a normal modular really. You needed EXT 1.4 and to see all the plugs not just a stereo pair.

I did have it running fine for Monophonic stuff but at the time there was a freeware modular that beat mine hands down and my hardwired instruments could do everything anyway so I never really went further than proof of concept.

I do wish you well with your idea though.

i had it from years ago,just never got round to trying before.
thanks for the good wishes.

[Benedict]

Where did you get my old discontinued "Pig" modular from?

I do wish you well with your idea though.

i had it from years ago,just never got round to trying before.
thanks for the good wishes.

So my idea helped spark yours. Cool. I do have to wish you well then don't I

[eidenk]

In that vein there is also ModulR's Konstrux pluggies I guess.

Perhaps some of the Acousmodules plugs also fit in this category.

[spacedad]

that's true,both quality stuff.

i was hoping mine would be easier to use,with colour-coded gui+connections,right-click info.
and a much bigger pack.i'll do some docs with pics,it was just an idea that grew.
i mean you build things for yourself first and foremost.
then if others like it too,that's a bonus.

oh,there's piz's midi plugs too,all these guys are better coders than me...in fact i don't know why i bother.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

hey
i think this is a cool idea. i've been suggesting such a thing (rather a community effort using a standard gui size and widgets, etc) for a long time now. honestly i would bite, just 'cause it's cool, and i'd like to try it.

i say go for it.

[spacedad]

that's good,thanks.

[RunBeerRun]

This definitely works, I built a dual midi/audio triggered plug, remembering which out was gate and pitch, a seperate vst for the synth innards. It works.

You could make a good dc entry by doing that, have like 4 synths and 4 different efx sections, like one for trance(reverb high pass filters), one for extreme distortion into a clipper.

I have no interest in wasting time building that, but it would be unique.

[spacedad]

well,yeah,i am going to do it.
but not for the dc.
and it probably will be free.

[spacedad]

just a friendly nudge to say i've released a starter pack in a new thread