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rymdis wrote:so at 1760hz the A note contains all the previous A harmonics and the fundamental at 440hz as well?
No. What that tutorial told you is this. Take the integers, that is the numbers n=1,2,3,4,5,.... For each such n take the note with frequency 1760/n, that is, the notes 880Hz, 5-almost-90Hz, 440Hz et cetera. Each of these notes will have a harmonic at 1760. So if you boost 1760, you will boost a harmonic of each of them.

So 1760 does not "contain" 440, but 440 contains 1760.

Since notes often have strong harmonics at the first and second octave, you will boost an audible part of the notes at 880, 590, 440. Lower ones too, but less and less.

Is that spelled out in small enough bits for you? Now you have it spelled out for you probably half a dozen different ways. Now quite asking the same question again and read first. With brain engaged. (Just curious, how old are you?)

Victor.

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VicDiesel wrote: No. What that tutorial told you is this. Take the integers, that is the numbers n=1,2,3,4,5,.... For each such n take the note with frequency 1760/n, that is, the notes 880Hz, 5-almost-90Hz, 440Hz et cetera. Each of these notes will have a harmonic at 1760. So if you boost 1760, you will boost a harmonic of each of them.

So 1760 does not "contain" 440, but 440 contains 1760.

Since notes often have strong harmonics at the first and second octave, you will boost an audible part of the notes at 880, 590, 440. Lower ones too, but less and less.

Is that spelled out in small enough bits for you? Now you have it spelled out for you probably half a dozen different ways. Now quite asking the same question again and read first. With brain engaged. (Just curious, how old are you?)

Victor.
Sorry if i upset you Victor. Not intended. I can see how this can make people furious. I cant believe how this could happen. I usually think in a very logical way. Im very sorry about this.

I meant the opposite, if the 440 contains the 1760 like u answered.
The other was already taken care of.
Too little sleep the last few days i guess :(

And as i dont know much in this area i refered to the tutorial ive read; "if i boost at 1760hz all A notes below will jump out". In this case, and i just refering to what ive read, it "seems" that the 440 and 880 and so on is included in 1760hz. I guess you would think the same if u didnt had any knowledge about this, right? So its the reliability of the tutorial thats interesting too as its a great one otherwise.

So basicly the tutorial is wrong here as ALL A notes dont get affected with a normal bandwidth. So i guess no one should trust everything they read.
Compressors is a great example :)

i think its a good thing having things spelled out in different ways though. Often people have different approaches in explaining. I dont mind having a few more actually :)

I guess its easy if you have studied harmonics and such for 10 years but for a beginner in this very area its not that easy. Often, and i dont mean this time, people have differnet thoughts how things work, like compressors. If u ask one thing you might end up with 10 different answers so the more info from the more people i think is great. And if the information doesnt differ its great!! If it differ in some areas these are worth looking up elsewhere.

Now with all the answers i have its much easier to understand. Hope this help others too.

And for the record im 35 years old and come from Sweden.

/R

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rymdis wrote: And as i dont know much in this area i refered to the tutorial ive read; "if i boost at 1760hz all A notes below will jump out". In this case, and i just refering to what ive read, it "seems" that the 440 and 880 and so on is included in 1760hz.
Whoever wrote that had something of a point, because you are indeed boosting some harmonic of every lower A.

However, just like 1760 is the 4th harmonic (if the fundamental is the 1st, otherwise it's the 3rd) of A at 440, it's also the 3rd harmonic of 587 Hz, which is a D. So if that A gets boosted, then that D will get boosted too.

I really have my doubts about those lower tones being boosted all that much, but I can't say that I've experimented with it. One octave below, maybe. Much more than that? Nah.

Victor.

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i totally agree here. Maybe he meant something else. Well, now i know a bit more about harmonics anyway so thanks to everybody!!!


/R

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VicDiesel wrote:
rymdis wrote: And as i dont know much in this area i refered to the tutorial ive read; "if i boost at 1760hz all A notes below will jump out". In this case, and i just refering to what ive read, it "seems" that the 440 and 880 and so on is included in 1760hz.
Whoever wrote that had something of a point, because you are indeed boosting some harmonic of every lower A.

However, just like 1760 is the 4th harmonic (if the fundamental is the 1st, otherwise it's the 3rd) of A at 440, it's also the 3rd harmonic of 587 Hz, which is a D. So if that A gets boosted, then that D will get boosted too.

I really have my doubts about those lower tones being boosted all that much, but I can't say that I've experimented with it. One octave below, maybe. Much more than that? Nah.

Victor.
It's going to depend on a number of things isn't it?


'will jump out' is subjective language, and doesn't look like it pretends to be precise language. I tend to agree whomever asserted that has a point.

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