KVR Audio

contrary · Post by **contrary** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:18 am

A 64 bit version would be nice .

Did any get an existing customer/initial release discount offer ???WTF

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:18 am

It's got a tube in it.

Colonel Flashback · Post by **Colonel Flashback** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:22 am

LBN wrote:It's got a tube in it.

Not as bad as a fake tube in hardware though, innit?

LBN · Post by **LBN** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:38 am

Colonel Flashback wrote:Not as bad as a fake tube in hardware though, innit?

Which company was it that put out a (groove?)box a few years ago with a tube in it that was lit up by an LED?

Edit: It's the Korg Electribe EMX1.

echopark · Post by **echopark** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:36 am

Which company was it that put out a (groove?)box a few years ago with a tube in it that was lit up by an LED?

It was Behringer

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:43 am

yep
Behringer
http://www.audiomasterclass.com/arc.cfm ... ading-this

dsp music · Post by **dsp music** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:44 am

It is stated on their site that's it's a CPU hog.

The circuit simulation technology is extremely CPU intensive, and hence we are only able to simulate very simple circuits.

the extremely was in bold on the original text...

audiobot202 · Post by **audiobot202** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:48 am

This does indeed sound nice though. I can run 2 instances comfortably on an AMD quad in Studio One, with other fx and instruments in a regular mix.
It's a render only affair really, but it does sound nice and smooth.

penguinfromdeep · Post by **penguinfromdeep** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:48 am

Just wow, it sounds really good. Like the UAD Fatso .. But really really big cpu hit, I guess there's no other way around it if you want quality like this ..

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:28 am

modelling a analog circuit takes many many many CPU cycles

SynthSquad opened the door for this in VST land but its been about for a long time,

now its getting more popular i'm hopeing new ways to down size the summing come up,

the fact is the hardware can only run 1 instance at a time,

testing things i can not afford is starting to depress me, so i'm avoiding this demo

but i would like to hear some A/B audio demos?

Subz

Grain Bastard · Post by **Grain Bastard** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:46 am

Mmmmm, I reckon the price of this thing puts it in the same ball park as the hardware TL Audio Fat Track Tube when you factor in the price of a new i7 processor to enable you to run it. (including the ram, board, OS etc)

I wonder which will loose more money.....a CPU and plugin or a nice tube hardware mixer thingy?????

If I'm honest I think I'm really wearing thin with the idea of 'virtual' studio's. This constant race with upgrading this and updating this plug and that host, more ram etc. I had a bit of a panic when I totted up how much money I have spent over the years on 'virtual' gear and a lot of it is no longer used or 'current', whereas my hardware synths have just worked and never needed a paid upgrade!!!!

Sorry for the OT but it appears that software has made me cranky

pikadilly · Post by **pikadilly** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:58 am

Wow it sounds really good! But the CPU usage is a killer, and the price tag is a lesser one, too. Any plan of introductory offer for this tube plugin?

vicnest · Post by **vicnest** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:31 pm

Nebula + tube programs: We are no longer CPU hogs

(just kidding)
Wave Arts could be the second VST using nVidia CUDA with no compromise to sound quality.

WOK · Post by **WOK** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:53 pm

wakax wrote:yep
Behringer
http://www.audiomasterclass.com/arc.cfm ... ading-this

Yes, good example of an article of someone who don't have knowledge about what he is writing. Behringer had put these lamps inside their tube gear, BECAUSE guys like that believe tubes have to glow strong (the stronger, the better the sound).
But these tube devices did not whant to sound like a guitar overdrive, but warm the sound up. And this is happening even at lower voltages in the tube. Of course the cheap tubes in that cheap gear can't sound too good. But they can be exchanged to better ones, and then even Behringer starts to sound good.

By the wy - I tried Wave Arts Tube Saturator. Well - it sound OK, but for the price and the CPU usage??
What I hate is that that their installer contains 31 files, even messing up with the C++ runtime on my computer. Good, that I tried it in a sandbox. Why can't these #+$%§&!$%$*# companies not just give an archive with the .dll (and a folder with presets) at least in their demos?!

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:42 pm

WOK wrote:But these tube devices did not whant to sound like a guitar overdrive, but warm the sound up. And this is happening even at lower voltages in the tube. Of course the cheap tubes in that cheap gear can't sound too good. But they can be exchanged to better ones, and then even Behringer starts to sound good.

No it won't.

The tube doesn't glow precisely because it is running with lower potential at the very edge of its usability range - a common starved plate design. In other words, the easiest, cheapest and the worst sounding way to create a tube fart overdrive effect.