Lack of warmth in my mixes!!
- KVRAF
- 2719 posts since 23 Mar, 2005 from Detroit
EQ your bassline some more with relation to the kick's frequency range so they are not overlapping and lower them in the mix. Find the eq range where you want them to punch through without overlapping each other. IF not done, this will cause both them to muddy the mix and you will raise the volume on both to try and hear both better hence it will use up all your dynamic range in the rest of the mix, and cause the rest of the instruments to sound thin and barely audible in the frequency range you want them in. I don't know much about side chain compression, but apparently it used quite a bit in dance music with bass and kick drum.
I don't make general electronic music, but once I discovered this rule with an acoustic drum kit and kick drum, with bass guitar and electric guitar tracks together, my mixes became fuller and I guess "warmer" and full of punch. The drums and or bass don't always have to be the loudest, but I guess there's a formula to follow in electronic dance music. Play your mix on as many different speaker systems. Remember a sub woofer will only pickup specific low frequencies and when you mix on a hifi type system that does not represent low bass well, it is really tricky to get right. Try to imagine how much power your kick and bassline will give off on a full range speaker system with subs, compared to the rest of your mix often helps me.
I don't make general electronic music, but once I discovered this rule with an acoustic drum kit and kick drum, with bass guitar and electric guitar tracks together, my mixes became fuller and I guess "warmer" and full of punch. The drums and or bass don't always have to be the loudest, but I guess there's a formula to follow in electronic dance music. Play your mix on as many different speaker systems. Remember a sub woofer will only pickup specific low frequencies and when you mix on a hifi type system that does not represent low bass well, it is really tricky to get right. Try to imagine how much power your kick and bassline will give off on a full range speaker system with subs, compared to the rest of your mix often helps me.
- KVRAF
- 2719 posts since 23 Mar, 2005 from Detroit
Often choosing which element you want to sit in the sub bass area (30-60hz), both bassline and kick drum usually cant sit in that same range unless side chained. Do you want the kick drum to do the sub bass duties or your bassline. If it's the bassline, then you want to eq your kick to have more or a clicky sound to it, that is well out of the sub bass line's frequency range. Then determine if you want your bass line to follow more of the drums or be more melodic. If it was programmed to follow drums and not be a melodic element, then lowpassing off the mids and highs is advisable so it doesn't interfere with your keys, pads,leads, snare, hihats etc.
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- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- Banned
- 3299 posts since 20 Dec, 2008
Wow, never heard Kim get confrontational before, BUT, and I haven't listened to the track, if it is so boring, the composer NEEDS telling. How else will he improve?Kim (esoundz) wrote:The reason it lacks warmth is that the composition is so astonishingly boring.
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- KVRist
- 296 posts since 9 Feb, 2009
Now that's just cold...Kim (esoundz) wrote:The reason it lacks warmth is that the composition is so astonishingly boring.
-Kim.
Agreed, it's probably exactly what he needs to hear though.
@ the OP: you should try and give it something for people to focus on. All i'm hearing is a new, rather insignificant noise creeping in every 8 bars, with the kick ocassionally dropping out on the 8th. And the kick dropping out needs to be done better, imo. You've just taken out the most important element, and replaced it with nothing. That works better when you have a busy and funky track, and even then, i wouldn't do it every 16 bars or whatever.
So yeah... composition. Spend time making a really nice and trippy noise, that you know will keep people happy. It doesn't have to be majorly upfront, but something that makes people actually want to listen to it. Maybe a mangled vocal sample?
And seriously, that kick dropping out on the 8th, starts to get annoying.
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- KVRist
- 67 posts since 2 Nov, 2009
it's very important find a way to add some dynamics and mojo to the highend of the song, i suggest bootsie plugins for a freeware solution http://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 260 posts since 29 Nov, 2005
Again thanks for all ur replies i will try to make some changes, its not my best track indeed.

