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garyewer09 · Post by **garyewer09** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:17 pm

California Dreamin' has a nice variation on the descending vi-V-IV-III progression, in C#m: C#m B A B G#sus G#.

-Gary

Professor Al · Post by **Professor Al** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:30 pm

garyewer09 wrote:California Dreamin' has a nice variation on the descending vi-V-IV-III progression...

-Gary

Is that truly how this pattern would be analyzed? Even though there is a definite Tonic (Am) and Dominant (E or E7) feel?

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tboulette · Post by **tboulette** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:19 pm

Professor Al wrote:
garyewer09 wrote:California Dreamin' has a nice variation on the descending vi-V-IV-III progression...

-Gary
Is that truly how this pattern would be analyzed? Even though there is a definite Tonic (Am) and Dominant (E or E7) feel?

Learn somethin' new every day...

No, I'd analyze it as i bVII bVI V7 in minor.

garyewer09 · Post by **garyewer09** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:18 am

No, I'd analyze it as i bVII bVI V7 in minor.

tboulette, you are correct. I had a momentary lapse in good judgement.

Actually, as most of these types of progressions feature a descending pattern that either ends (in A minor) Em to Am, or sometimes G to Am (As in Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower") I'm used to thinking of these as actually either Aeolian mode (natural minor) or borrowed minor chords from major. But in this case, "California Dreamin'" is most certainly minor, as you say.

I have to pay closer attention before pushing "Submit".

-Gary

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:35 am

skipkent wrote:Richard Hell and the Voidoids "Blank Generation"

Robert Quine's guitar on this song MUST be heard to be believed!

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