Hello my friends
I uploaded a recording of the exercise I described before.
Give me your oppinion about the mutting issues. You may ear it at my space: http://www.myspace.com/ruibarata.
The file is called Legato 100~200 bpm because it was play at two speeds, 100 and 200 bpm. Don't pay attention to the audio glitches and occasional out of time issues.
Thanks
Guitar legato exercises
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- KVRian
- 1480 posts since 14 Jun, 2003
i didn't listen to the examples mentioned but i did want to flag a warning about the illusion of not liking music with fast playing. what can sometimes happen is that the playing will outrun your ears for lack of ear training, and if you come back to that music you didnt like after having more ear training you might like it a lot.
not to say that there arent scribbly wangers out there....
not to say that there arent scribbly wangers out there....
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100 - KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
Please do not take this as an insult rbarata but some advice/thought (my opinion only FWIW), you need to build up a stronger hammer on and hammer off as at the moment the volume of each note after the intial pluck of the string becomes weaker and weaker. It will come in time via putting in the practicerbarata wrote:Hello my friends
I uploaded a recording of the exercise I described before.
Give me your oppinion about the mutting issues. You may ear it at my space: http://www.myspace.com/ruibarata.
The file is called Legato 100~200 bpm because it was play at two speeds, 100 and 200 bpm. Don't pay attention to the audio glitches and occasional out of time issues.
Thanks
All the best and i hope you reach your goals/aims as a fellow guitar player
Dean/Nekro
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 467 posts since 6 Feb, 2005 from Portugal
Hi DeanPlease do not take this as an insult rbarata but some advice/thought (my opinion only FWIW), you need to build up a stronger hammer on and hammer off as at the moment the volume of each note after the intial pluck of the string becomes weaker and weaker. It will come in time via putting in the practice
I don't take it as an insult, better this than no replies at all.
I appreciate your honesty. I'm not sure if the volume becoming weaker is real, I mean, it could be from the recording...or not.
That's something I must check. But one thing I know, the volume between the initial pluck and the rest is not even. The initial pluck's volume is always much higher than the rest.Thanks for the reply.
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- KVRAF
- 2448 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
Dean is right about the dynamics, from what I can hear. You want to strive for executing hammers and pulls with controlled dynamics, and not just limited by, for example, what your middle finger can do vs. your pinky due to finger strength and control alone. One exercise that I was shown that is great for that is an almost obvious one... plunk your index finger down, then exercise hammer/pull for each finger in turn (1/2 step for middle, whole step for ring, etc.) for 1 minute straight. As before, start with quarter notes at very low BPM. 
The goal is to listen very closely to the sound of each hammer and pull and make them consistent... and also go for consistency across fingers as well.
Then go back and do 1/8 notes at low BPM. Only when you get some consistency start bumping up the BPM. Also, after you notice you've built up some strength and endurance in each finger, move up to 1.5 minutes, 2 minutes per finger. Don't strain anything!
A couple of variations... one is to add an extra half step to stretch your fingers -- so do whole step for middle, 1 1/2 steps for ring, 2 steps for pinky. Another is to do combinations of note values... one measure of 1/4 notes, then a measure of 1/4 triplets, then measure of 1/8 notes, then 1/8 note triplets, then 1/16 notes, etc., then the same with the next finger. That's sort of a drummer's thing, but doing combinations of note values like that really helps with your timing.
Speaking of BPMs and note values... your practice file at 100 and 200 BPM was played quarter notes. You'd be better off halving the BPM and playing twice as fast from a note value perspective. So start at 50BPM and play 1/8 notes instead of 1/4's at 100BPM... that way you can more easily go 1/4 <=> 1/8 <=> 1/16 <=> 1/32... as opposed to trying to play 16th notes at 200BPM!
As far as strings ringing in your posted file, I hear some mis-hits and whatnot at the slower BPM, but in general it doesn't sound terrible. But again, a higher gain may bring more out than what can be heard in that recording. I do hear more extraneous noise at the higher BPM, so I don't quite get what you said before about not getting as much ringing at higher BPM?
The goal is to listen very closely to the sound of each hammer and pull and make them consistent... and also go for consistency across fingers as well. Then go back and do 1/8 notes at low BPM. Only when you get some consistency start bumping up the BPM. Also, after you notice you've built up some strength and endurance in each finger, move up to 1.5 minutes, 2 minutes per finger. Don't strain anything!
A couple of variations... one is to add an extra half step to stretch your fingers -- so do whole step for middle, 1 1/2 steps for ring, 2 steps for pinky. Another is to do combinations of note values... one measure of 1/4 notes, then a measure of 1/4 triplets, then measure of 1/8 notes, then 1/8 note triplets, then 1/16 notes, etc., then the same with the next finger. That's sort of a drummer's thing, but doing combinations of note values like that really helps with your timing.
Speaking of BPMs and note values... your practice file at 100 and 200 BPM was played quarter notes. You'd be better off halving the BPM and playing twice as fast from a note value perspective. So start at 50BPM and play 1/8 notes instead of 1/4's at 100BPM... that way you can more easily go 1/4 <=> 1/8 <=> 1/16 <=> 1/32... as opposed to trying to play 16th notes at 200BPM!
As far as strings ringing in your posted file, I hear some mis-hits and whatnot at the slower BPM, but in general it doesn't sound terrible. But again, a higher gain may bring more out than what can be heard in that recording. I do hear more extraneous noise at the higher BPM, so I don't quite get what you said before about not getting as much ringing at higher BPM?