lol. is the eye-roll really necessary? i know it's difficult to have to deal with the fact that Audio Damage didn't develop their newest plug-in to your specifications, but the world doesn't just revolve around you...hivkorn wrote:me too...this has got to be the first AD product that kinda leaves me cold
Audio Damage Phosphor Released
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
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- KVRian
- 882 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Did anyone buy this and try it out yet?
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- KVRist
- 280 posts since 21 Feb, 2006 from UK
It has quite a charming and minimal sound, especially nice for IDM type stuff I guess. Tempted..
I was searching around for some better demos and found these:
http://soundcloud.com/chris-randall/set ... est-tracks
I was searching around for some better demos and found these:
http://soundcloud.com/chris-randall/set ... est-tracks
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- KVRian
- 882 posts since 20 Feb, 2004
Thanks for these. Better than those on the official website. I own just about all the AD plugins, but I have to confess I am a little confused by this one. $59 is not a bad price, but seems a lot if all it can do is what is on the demoes.SolarRainUK wrote:It has quite a charming and minimal sound, especially nice for IDM type stuff I guess. Tempted..
I was searching around for some better demos and found these:
http://soundcloud.com/chris-randall/set ... est-tracks
I would love to hear some user demoes by people who really push what it can do.
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- KVRist
- 234 posts since 26 Oct, 2009
I was pretty excited when I first heard about it. but now that it's avalaible, I don't think I can find one good reason to actually purchase this. I mean, there are some good audio demos, but I don't think there are some features justify it for me.
maybe someone here can convince me of the opposite ?
maybe someone here can convince me of the opposite ?
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- KVRAF
- 6368 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I decided to go for Phosphor and threw together a quick demo track this evening. I will probably hate it tomorrow but it's up on SoundCloud now: http://soundcloud.com/gamma-ut/jellyfis ... hor-tryout
The architecture is very simple and is very easy to program (which I guess is to be expected given its inspiration) - you just draw over the partials to alter them, for example.
You've got some fairly basic LFO and mod-wheel modulation. The filter delays work very with with the sounds. It does ethereal pretty well; I didn't monkey with the presets all that much but there are some neat features of the architecture that give you interesting timbres very quickly, particularly the cross-modulation which goes from interesting to eerie/weird quite quickly. The little space invader icons let you switch from lofi to higher-quality synthesis - the lofi gives some sounds a lot more crunch and body but you wouldn't want it on everything.
For leads, pitch envelope might have been a reasonable addition (and filter) even if they weren't in the original. Then again, this seems to be a synth that does pads and, to an extent, basses pretty well; some other things not so well.
The architecture is very simple and is very easy to program (which I guess is to be expected given its inspiration) - you just draw over the partials to alter them, for example.
You've got some fairly basic LFO and mod-wheel modulation. The filter delays work very with with the sounds. It does ethereal pretty well; I didn't monkey with the presets all that much but there are some neat features of the architecture that give you interesting timbres very quickly, particularly the cross-modulation which goes from interesting to eerie/weird quite quickly. The little space invader icons let you switch from lofi to higher-quality synthesis - the lofi gives some sounds a lot more crunch and body but you wouldn't want it on everything.
For leads, pitch envelope might have been a reasonable addition (and filter) even if they weren't in the original. Then again, this seems to be a synth that does pads and, to an extent, basses pretty well; some other things not so well.
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- KVRAF
- 2911 posts since 3 Mar, 2006
Thanks for that. The bass sound in your demo convinced me far more than the official demos.Gamma-UT wrote:I decided to go for Phosphor and threw together a quick demo track this evening. I will probably hate it tomorrow but it's up on SoundCloud now: http://soundcloud.com/gamma-ut/jellyfis ... hor-tryout
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- KVRAF
- 6368 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Thanks. The bass sound is a minor tweak from the factory preset 39: Bass Ackwards. I reduced the first two even partials on Osc2, added some LFO modulation to the pan and reduced the filter bandwidth on the two delays. The cross-modulation on Osc2 also steadily increases through the track to a maximum of 33 per cent. In general, you don't want to push the cross-mod too far or it becomes too chaotic; cutting the partials helped keep the sound under control.MitchK1989 wrote:Thanks for that. The bass sound in your demo convinced me far more than the official demos.Gamma-UT wrote:I decided to go for Phosphor and threw together a quick demo track this evening. I will probably hate it tomorrow but it's up on SoundCloud now: http://soundcloud.com/gamma-ut/jellyfis ... hor-tryout
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- KVRian
- 1450 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California
Are the levels of each partial exposed to your DAW? One thing I have noticed about AD stuff is that it is designed to take complex modulation from the DAW and not from internal parameters.
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- KVRAF
- 1769 posts since 30 Jul, 2007
My question is AD Phosphor or ImageLine Morphine? Both are additive and do this kind of sound.
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- KVRian
- 939 posts since 1 Sep, 2010 from Birmingham, UK
Alchemy has a very similar additive setup to Morphine, but with more control options. IMO.vaisnava wrote:My question is AD Phosphor or ImageLine Morphine? Both are additive and do this kind of sound.
And Morphine and Alchemy both do re-synthesis too.
On a different point, it seems a bit like you could do similar stuff to this in Abletons Operator and effects, maybe. Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick here. Maybe I should just download the manual.
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- KVRian
- 1133 posts since 31 May, 2007
Absolutely agree with you there,i switched to reason and record mainly to stop buying more and more plug ins that i did not need,price is good on this synth though but is not worth really buyingIgro wrote:I will tell you what. if you buy Axon, Phosphor, then you can easily make perfect music. The less is more. All other stuff is effect processing.
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- KVRAF
- 6368 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
I tried it in Live: the partials don't seem to be exposed to the DAW; pretty much everything else is.Gribs wrote:Are the levels of each partial exposed to your DAW? One thing I have noticed about AD stuff is that it is designed to take complex modulation from the DAW and not from internal parameters.
- KVRAF
- 2175 posts since 10 Mar, 2006
Phosphor reminds me of Jarre's additive synth, which he used on Oxygene and Equinoxe.
Both synths have a very similar architecture, including the 2X 16 partial OSCs. Very crude sound.
One thing's for sure, Oxygene wouldn't have been the same album without that RMI additive synth.
Both synths have a very similar architecture, including the 2X 16 partial OSCs. Very crude sound.
One thing's for sure, Oxygene wouldn't have been the same album without that RMI additive synth.
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- KVRist
- 283 posts since 12 Jun, 2005
Additive synthesis is not for me 
I tried Morphine, Alchemy,Cameleon 5000,White Noise Additive Synth, listened to Phosphor demos...
Leaved me cold every time
I prefer any other synthesis over it.
But i find the "raw" sound of Phosphor more interesting than most other additive synths.
Additive synthesis downside is "lifeless" sound, so anything to avoid it is welcome.
I tried Morphine, Alchemy,Cameleon 5000,White Noise Additive Synth, listened to Phosphor demos...
Leaved me cold every time
I prefer any other synthesis over it.
But i find the "raw" sound of Phosphor more interesting than most other additive synths.
Additive synthesis downside is "lifeless" sound, so anything to avoid it is welcome.
