Geist or Tremor - confusion! (done, bought geist)

[knobs]

If they made Geist and Tremor crossover too much, there would be no reason to spring for both.

I couldnt be more happy with my Geist purchase and customer experience with Fxpansion.

these guys REALLY know what theyre doing.

[lightsfadelow]

I'm struggling with this too... because I have less than a month to decide on Tremor to get the special price.

The funny thing is that I'm still learning Geist.

But this is KVR, so I'm sure I'll end up buying Tremor too. Because if I were just about making music I'd avoid this place

[Andywanders]

...I also work as a composer of background music for tv commercials, corporate films, and documentaries...

Pardon me if I'm out of line here, but these kind of gigs are usually very well paid (at least they were when I did them), so why don't you just buy both? The fee from just one corporate video track should more than cover the cost.

[zerocrossing]

Right now, Im leaning towards Tremor, simply because I feel it expands my options and brings more to the table than geist, considering what I already have. But I should also mention that I have a core i3 3.06 ghz imac, and Tremor does take a lot of cpu.

If you already have Maschine I agree that Tremor is the way to go if you can only do one. I don't know Giest's sample lib, but it's probably somewhat on par with Maschine's. Does Giest do multisamples? That's my only complaint with Maschine, though I'm a long time Battery owner so I'm set in that respect anyway. (why Maschine won't just load Battery kids is beyond me.

I don't think there's too much overlap between Tremor and Drumaxx either. I really like Drumaxx and it uses a totally different synthesis method, so, of course, the more the merrier.

[zerocrossing]

...I also work as a composer of background music for tv commercials, corporate films, and documentaries...

Pardon me if I'm out of line here, but these kind of gigs are usually very well paid (at least they were when I did them), so why don't you just buy both? The fee from just one corporate video track should more than cover the cost.

You'd think, but I did a whole bunch of music for a Facebook game and I swear I had to use KORE free and freeware synths for all my sounds... I even used my own license of Live. They claimed to have no money at all for music.

[pdxindy]

If they made Geist and Tremor crossover too much, there would be no reason to spring for both.

I'd be happy to pay the same price as Tremor (special for Geist user) to have it in Geist... so no loss financially...

From my side, the cost is of little concern, but workflow is. Now there are two cool sequencers each with features I want, and each environment has sounds I want, but those two products do not work together at all. There needs to be MORE crossover to make me want to buy both. Can you not use Trillian samples in Omnisphere? Can you not drive their products with a common groove? Spectrasonics does some integration between products which is enticing.

Anyway, of the two, Geist is far more capable. For me, there is no question which of the two I would purchase had I to choose. Geist. The sampling is superb and I can easily sample various synths and build kits of my own synth presets. That provides a far wider range of sounds than Tremor.

Fxpansion made a fine product with Tremor, but for me they made an indispensable one in Geist.

[CT]

Yea .. But they dont pay all that much here in India, or at least its not that much when converted to dollars. And the indian rupee is really weak compared to the dollar nowadays anyway. Also, piracy is very common here, not so many freelancers buy software, and many of my friends and colleagues think Im an idiot for "actually spending money" on software.

Maybe in a few years when Im more established, I can charge a higher fee, but right now I dont get all that much per project.

[spritex]

As a recent Geist purchaser, I am 100% with pdxindy on this.

I would pay for a major Geist upgrade, but I won't be getting Tremor because I don't want to complicate the workflow with separate sequencers for different sounds.

[munchkin]

Have you thought about getting Omnisphere instead?
















The obligatory KVR Omnisphere post.

[whitecloud]

If they made Geist and Tremor crossover too much, there would be no reason to spring for both.

I'd be happy to pay the same price as Tremor (special for Geist user) to have it in Geist... so no loss financially...

From my side, the cost is of little concern, but workflow is. Now there are two cool sequencers each with features I want, and each environment has sounds I want, but those two products do not work together at all. There needs to be MORE crossover to make me want to buy both. Can you not use Trillian samples in Omnisphere? Can you not drive their products with a common groove? Spectrasonics does some integration between products which is enticing.

Anyway, of the two, Geist is far more capable. For me, there is no question which of the two I would purchase had I to choose. Geist. The sampling is superb and I can easily sample various synths and build kits of my own synth presets. That provides a far wider range of sounds than Tremor.

Fxpansion made a fine product with Tremor, but for me they made an indispensable one in Geist.

I'm with you on this one. I have been on a Synth buying spree the last couple of month's. Bought an Akai "Miniak" then at the last minute before the Holiday special bought Geist and DCAM Synth Squad. I received the boxed versions the first week of this month. Having the demos for both and reading the manual and watching all the tutorial vids(I highly recommend) I was prepared to jump in and start making some noise. Then the Tremor demo appeared and the tempting offer until Feb 12. I put the other two on the back burner to demo Tremor.
I love it's seq, but think that it still is a work in progress. I noticed right off no drag and drop feature, but noticed I could record midi to track in my DAW's. Then I discovered in the past few days erratic behavior doing so. Some times it recorded the patterns to a midi track and sometimes not. I mentioned this in another thread, no response so far so may PM one of the FX guys. Can't
to a support ticket on a demo(as far as I know). Now I have been using Geist's
sampling feature to sample other drum sounds from my other synth's. It was actually a lot of fun doing so. Over the years I have been collecting quite a few drums samples and loops, so it makes sense for me to get to work using Geist. Synth Squad didn't come with many use able presets in a musical sense(this my own opinion) so I will have to roll up my sleeves with those synths. I may hold off on Tremor and get the Akai MPD32 as earlier planned. It comes with mapping for Geist which lays things out quite nicely. From what I've seen it is almost like using hardware. I haven't made a final decision though and am keeping a close eye on Tremor.

[inaheartbeat]

OK I have both Geist and Tremor. I also have Omnisphere which was mentioned for some reason in here.

Omnisphere is not part of the discussion here nor should it be. It does not allow for sample import and is not a drum instrument or sampler. OK...got that out of the way. I do love Omnisphere though a LOT!

Geist for me just makes sampling and mapping onto my MPC pads SO easy that it would be hard to give up. The slicing tools and general workflow for sample manipulation is really nice in Geist. If your main focus is on getting samples into your workflow to play with and manipulate then Geist is your choice.

Tremor is outstanding for sequencing beats. It is the kind of software you open up and just seem to be able to get without too much reference to the manual. Very nice stuff. It is totally different than Geist and I agree they don't play well together. If you have a nice way to sequence beats and manipulate sound already that you like then you don't NEED tremor. It is a very very nice tool though and the price is not prohibitive. It eats far too much CPU as far as I can see and that sort of mystifies me.

So....my advice is get Geist first and save up for Tremor cause you will want it. They are both really nice tools to have in the arsenal.

Ken

[lightsfadelow]

as a Spectrasonics "Everything" customer, I sure like Omnisphere and Trillian, but have migrated to Giest from Stylus RMX... not because RMX doesn't still have great content but because i can't really handle 2 rhythm instruments at the same time. I wonder if it will be the same if I bought Tremor.

Strangely, I have no problem using Kontakt, Omnisphere, Trillian, and Massive in the same project...

[CT]

After downloading and playing with geist for a little while today, I have to reaffirm that what a lot of you said about Geist and its workflow was spot on. I already find it more convenient to work in than maschine as a plugin, and itll be really useful as a plugin within maschine too. With maschine, standalone is its forte, and it does not compare as a plugin. I also see geist being very useful as a sketchpad. Loved the workflow so far.

I didnt get much time to dig in today, but I will be getting a lot deeper into it over the next few days. And I cant wait. I can already see how the statement qbout geist being indispensible rings true. Geist has struck a chord with me too, as did tremor, and im glad I went for this instead. FXpansion guys get 10,000 points for yet another amazing product.

I dont know what is it with their stuff, but it really inspires me to dig in, and Ive really been enjoying all their stuff more so than any other, of late.

[srcodling]

Can anyone comment on how Tremor compares to microTonic (uTonic) by Sonic Charge?

[epsy]

I am very excited to test out tremor. Been using waldorf attack for the same thing for years as my go to. This is the first thing I have seen that can rival and likely surpass it.