Not muchmichi_mak wrote:yeah, REAPER is a nice and powerfull DAW - what's wrong with it?hibidy wrote:michi mak will LOVE this!
Try reaper.
need a nice and powerful DAW
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- KVRAF
- 5817 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
Gabba gabba we accept you, we accept you, one of us!
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- KVRAF
- 2158 posts since 11 Oct, 2007 from Almanya
+1 for Reaper.
It takes some getting used to, but once you know how to handle it, you have a new best friend. (sort of.)
Switched to Reaper from Magix Music Studio (not Maker) in 2006, it's been a love story ever since.
When my Reaper license ran out because v4 was introduced, I gave other hosts a chance and started demo-ing and trying out other hosts, such as Sonar, Cubase (LE), Studio One, etc., I even bought Samplitude v11 just to return to Magix, my host-wise roots. Dumped them all, re-sold Samp v11, re-bought Reaper.
When I switched from PC to Mac a while ago, I again started looking around for alternatives, like the usual suspects: Pro Tools and Logic. My band mate lent me his MacBook for a couple of days, so "we" would have time to bond, but... both are nice and so on, both can justify their existence... it's just that somehow they're way too "clicky".
So even when completely changing my platform, I stayed with Reaper. It's just the best performer. (...for me.)
About that "clicky" thing: the amount of clicking and menu-scrolling and concentration you need in Pro Tools just to send one track to another ... unusable. 1 click in Reaper, drag & drop.
The amount of clicking and time it consumes in Logic to get an automation envelope active (without even putting any points on it) was unbelievable when i tried; in Reaper, it's 1 key press away.
It comes with a snitload of more than useful plugins, and even though I have plugins like SSL Duende and Waves stuff at hand, I find myself using ReaComp/ReaEQ/ReaVerb/ReaTune all the time. They might not look like winners, but they are.
If you need any help or have problems, there's a very active Reaper forum in which users help users and report bugs all the time, and where the Reaper staff mingle with the users to fix those bugs, incorporate useful new features and options and release them within (mostly only) a few weeks time.
Try getting Steinberg or Cakewalk or Magix to do that...
Also, there are many Reaper users like myself here at KVR, so I'm sure you could find some help here as well.
I could go on blathering about the pros and cons of this and that host all darn day, as I've spent so much time trying them out in my own time, but I won't.
You should really give it a spin.
And don't just give up at day #1, really try to do a small project with it. When you encounter something you can't do - read/ask around and find out how to, because 99% of the time you can - it just works differently (in a better way) than in other hosts.
Groove3 have some Reaper Tutorial Videos online, from which even I (who considers himself to be quite a seasoned Reaper veteran) managed to extract loads of useful hints and techniques and answers to unasked questions.
http://www.groove3.com/str/reaper-training-videos/
It takes some getting used to, but once you know how to handle it, you have a new best friend. (sort of.)
Switched to Reaper from Magix Music Studio (not Maker) in 2006, it's been a love story ever since.
When my Reaper license ran out because v4 was introduced, I gave other hosts a chance and started demo-ing and trying out other hosts, such as Sonar, Cubase (LE), Studio One, etc., I even bought Samplitude v11 just to return to Magix, my host-wise roots. Dumped them all, re-sold Samp v11, re-bought Reaper.
When I switched from PC to Mac a while ago, I again started looking around for alternatives, like the usual suspects: Pro Tools and Logic. My band mate lent me his MacBook for a couple of days, so "we" would have time to bond, but... both are nice and so on, both can justify their existence... it's just that somehow they're way too "clicky".
So even when completely changing my platform, I stayed with Reaper. It's just the best performer. (...for me.)
About that "clicky" thing: the amount of clicking and menu-scrolling and concentration you need in Pro Tools just to send one track to another ... unusable. 1 click in Reaper, drag & drop.
The amount of clicking and time it consumes in Logic to get an automation envelope active (without even putting any points on it) was unbelievable when i tried; in Reaper, it's 1 key press away.
It comes with a snitload of more than useful plugins, and even though I have plugins like SSL Duende and Waves stuff at hand, I find myself using ReaComp/ReaEQ/ReaVerb/ReaTune all the time. They might not look like winners, but they are.
If you need any help or have problems, there's a very active Reaper forum in which users help users and report bugs all the time, and where the Reaper staff mingle with the users to fix those bugs, incorporate useful new features and options and release them within (mostly only) a few weeks time.
Try getting Steinberg or Cakewalk or Magix to do that...
Also, there are many Reaper users like myself here at KVR, so I'm sure you could find some help here as well.
I could go on blathering about the pros and cons of this and that host all darn day, as I've spent so much time trying them out in my own time, but I won't.
You should really give it a spin.
And don't just give up at day #1, really try to do a small project with it. When you encounter something you can't do - read/ask around and find out how to, because 99% of the time you can - it just works differently (in a better way) than in other hosts.
Groove3 have some Reaper Tutorial Videos online, from which even I (who considers himself to be quite a seasoned Reaper veteran) managed to extract loads of useful hints and techniques and answers to unasked questions.
http://www.groove3.com/str/reaper-training-videos/
Reaper user? Get my free JSFX plug-ins, also available via ReaPack extension.
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRian
- 1194 posts since 27 May, 2008
SawStudio Lite and Midi Workshop
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 142 posts since 9 Apr, 2012 from United States
A heavy daw just means it takes a lot of CPU and ram power and it takes a long time to load upsiriusbliss wrote:
Not sure what is considered a 'heavy' DAW, but Samplitude IS 'deep'.
(and it comes with lots of loops and 'soundpools').
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 19 Aug, 2004 from Toronto
Hmm, just curious, but, so Renoise didn't work for you?
I feel it's pretty darn light - loads in 4 seconds for me.
It's also incredibly efficient cpu wise, and has plugin delay compensation.
That said, I'm not saying it SHOULD work for you.
Just, in the other thread it seemed to suit the bill for what you were looking for.
So, I'm curious as to what your impression of it was after you tried it.
Or did you try it?
If you need a hand wrapping your head around it I'm willing to offer some guidance.
Note: I don't work for Renoise. I'm just a happy Renoise user/owner that wants to support the continued development of the product by helping people interested in it to discover what a truly powerful DAW it is. Part of my motivation is based on how incredibly well priced it is for what I get out of it. I figure I can show my appreciation and support, by helping the occasional person out with understanding how it can be used.
I feel it's pretty darn light - loads in 4 seconds for me.
It's also incredibly efficient cpu wise, and has plugin delay compensation.
That said, I'm not saying it SHOULD work for you.
Just, in the other thread it seemed to suit the bill for what you were looking for.
So, I'm curious as to what your impression of it was after you tried it.
Or did you try it?
If you need a hand wrapping your head around it I'm willing to offer some guidance.
Note: I don't work for Renoise. I'm just a happy Renoise user/owner that wants to support the continued development of the product by helping people interested in it to discover what a truly powerful DAW it is. Part of my motivation is based on how incredibly well priced it is for what I get out of it. I figure I can show my appreciation and support, by helping the occasional person out with understanding how it can be used.
drab
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- KVRist
- 128 posts since 24 Feb, 2012
+9001 for Renoise.
Disco flangus shenanigans
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 142 posts since 9 Apr, 2012 from United States
Well you're the second person for thinking i started another thread about this but i think i remember you from the vst sequencer thread. for me reniose was just too confusing in GUI for the way it was laid out. I really prefer the traditional daw setup over renoises but that doesn't mean renoise is not a totally sick and powerful daw. I really think it does have potential but it is just not my styleallofdrab wrote:Hmm, just curious, but, so Renoise didn't work for you?
I feel it's pretty darn light - loads in 4 seconds for me.
It's also incredibly efficient cpu wise, and has plugin delay compensation.
That said, I'm not saying it SHOULD work for you.
Just, in the other thread it seemed to suit the bill for what you were looking for.
So, I'm curious as to what your impression of it was after you tried it.
Or did you try it?
If you need a hand wrapping your head around it I'm willing to offer some guidance.
Note: I don't work for Renoise. I'm just a happy Renoise user/owner that wants to support the continued development of the product by helping people interested in it to discover what a truly powerful DAW it is. Part of my motivation is based on how incredibly well priced it is for what I get out of it. I figure I can show my appreciation and support, by helping the occasional person out with understanding how it can be used.
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- KVRAF
- 20726 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Only if you're talking about the iPad version.CTStump wrote:Does "GarageBand" belong in this thread?
Seriously, though, not a bad call.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Well, if you are on mac, there isn't much reason not to go with logic now.
edit: I'm still really bitter than mine cost 1000 bucks, didn't work and I ended up dumping it (cubase a similar story)
You guys have got it good these days
edit: I'm still really bitter than mine cost 1000 bucks, didn't work and I ended up dumping it (cubase a similar story)
You guys have got it good these days
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- KVRian
- 570 posts since 9 Jan, 2012 from Dona Ana, New Mexiico in the US of A
My older brother swears by this program and he has logic, he's also 500% more productive than I am.Uncle E wrote:Only if you're talking about the iPad version.CTStump wrote:Does "GarageBand" belong in this thread?
Seriously, though, not a bad call.
That say's alot.
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- KVRian
- 514 posts since 6 Mar, 2012
Have you demoed Samplitude ProX yet? It could be just what you need, especially since you seem to be accustomed to the Magix type of workflow.Lazerbacon766 wrote:I really need a new DAW. I used magix music maker mx for a while but not anymore. [...]
Also some more loops would be nice or some more instruments
It's somewhat more expensive than DAWs like Reaper or Studio One, but has all the features you need. And, what's even more important: It sounds better than, e. g., Cubase, not only to my ears.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 142 posts since 9 Apr, 2012 from United States
In that one i was just looking for a simple vst sequencer and noting more that that not a dawmichi_mak wrote:http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=347676Lazerbacon766 wrote:Um i don't remeber starting any threads about daws before
