KVR Audio

codehead · Post by **codehead** » Wed May 02, 2012 4:26 pm

shponglefan wrote:
codehead wrote:In their FAQ, they said they were working on converting it to 64-bit in 2011—it can't be that difficult.
Actually, I think it can. Look how long its taken some other companies to come out with 64-bit plugs (i.e. Arturia, Waves).

Well, I believe that they need a cocoa view in 64-bit land, and if they are carbon, then it's some work. But M-Tron Pro has a relatively simple interface (not exactly the Waves suite), and they indicated that it was the first thing they were targeting ("M-Tron Pro and VSM"—same interface). They were doing it in 2011, we've eaten a third of 2012..."it can't be that difficult"

earlevel · Post by **earlevel** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:22 pm

Well, only another year later...but after installing and verifying the install, my software doesn't see the 64-bit version...

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:26 pm

Yeah I don't get it what takes them so long to go 64-bit...

earlevel · Post by **earlevel** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:31 pm

The AU version installs by default (VST and RTAS optional), and that's the one I wanted, but it doesn't show up in any 64-bit software I tried.

However, I went back and installed the VST version as well, and it does show up as 64-bit, and seems to work fine on a quick check.

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:42 pm

The final Gforce synth to go x64 will be Oddity. Hopefully with a 0dff VCF upgrade as well.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:49 pm

earlevel wrote:The AU version installs by default (VST and RTAS optional), and that's the one I wanted, but it doesn't show up in any 64-bit software I tried.

However, I went back and installed the VST version as well, and it does show up as 64-bit, and seems to work fine on a quick check.

Version of what?

Where the heck is imposcar 2 64bit.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:57 pm

M-Tron and VSM are 64-bit as of recently, it seems.

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:23 pm

I've been meaning to ask, are 64 bit plug-ins better than 32 bit ones, or is it to ensure compatibility with 64 bit only operating systems?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:26 pm

It's to ensure better workflow with 64-bit DAWs without using any bit-bridge conversions.

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:33 pm

electro wrote:The final Gforce synth to go x64 will be Oddity. Hopefully with a 0dff VCF upgrade as well.

That would be lovely. As would an improved preset browser and the option to choose different skins ala revision 1 and 3. I'm not going to ask for polyphony.

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:44 pm

EvilDragon wrote:It's to ensure better workflow with 64-bit DAWs without using any bit-bridge conversions.

Cheers. I'm running Live 7, which I believe is 32 bit. So I guess it doesn't apply to me? What happens if I upgrade to the latest version of Live and run a 32 bit plugin, or for that matter, a 16 bit one? Also, why is a 64 bit DAW>32 bit DAW? Superior sound quality or better use of computer resources?

electro · Post by **electro** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:47 pm

dj ray wrote:
electro wrote:The final Gforce synth to go x64 will be Oddity. Hopefully with a 0dff VCF upgrade as well.
That would be lovely. As would an improved preset browser and the option to choose different skins ala revision 1 and 3. I'm not going to ask for polyphony.

Due to the Odyssey's unique Duophonic design polyphony would ruin the Oddity. Oddity is one of the few synths that won't benefit from any modifications.

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:48 pm

electro wrote:
dj ray wrote:
electro wrote:The final Gforce synth to go x64 will be Oddity. Hopefully with a 0dff VCF upgrade as well.
That would be lovely. As would an improved preset browser and the option to choose different skins ala revision 1 and 3. I'm not going to ask for polyphony.
Due to the Odyssey's unique Duophonic design polyphony would ruin the Oddity. Oddity is one of the few synths that won't benefit from any modifications.

I agree. Its an incredible emulation.

yessongs · Post by **yessongs** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:16 pm

minimonsta is on top of my wish list now

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:41 pm

dj ray wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:It's to ensure better workflow with 64-bit DAWs without using any bit-bridge conversions.
Cheers. I'm running Live 7, which I believe is 32 bit. So I guess it doesn't apply to me? What happens if I upgrade to the latest version of Live and run a 32 bit plugin, or for that matter, a 16 bit one? Also, why is a 64 bit DAW>32 bit DAW? Superior sound quality or better use of computer resources?

FWIW i am still using Windows 7 32-bit with Ableton Live 9 32-bit.

64-bit is only really necessary if bigger amounts of RAM are needed. At 32-bit RAM is limited to around 3.3 GB.

Big amounts of RAM are usually necessary for big sample libraries. Anyway if a plugin instance itself needs a certain amount of RAM the amount of instances you could use could be limited by the amount of RAM you have installed.

AFAIK in a 32-bit OS a single program is limited to a certain amount of RAM it could use which should be around 2 (or some more) GB.

To use 64-bit properly you need a 64-bit capable CPU (which should be most of them), a 64-bit OS, a 64-bit DAW/host software (e.g. Ableton Live 9 or the latest version of Live 8 ) and a native 64-bit plugin.
Not to forget you'll also need the corresponding 64-bit drivers for your hardware (e.g. audi interface etc.)

Sound wise there should be no difference between 32-bit and 64-bit.

New computers are usually sold with 64-bit OS only so if you want to use a 32-bit OS you have to buy that separately. The full version of Windows 7 i got for both my desktop PC and notebook contain both DVDs for 32-bit and 64-bit so i could change it at any time without extra cost.

Ingo

Gforce synths - 64bit - when?