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BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed May 16, 2012 2:58 pm

EvilDragon wrote:GSi VB3. Don't worry about 64-bit. It's the best there is, still. v2 might be 64-bit... gotta ask Guido.

I get that people are passionate about their favorite plugs, but when someone expresses concerns about 64 bit, the fact that the plug sounds really good doesn't cancel out the fact that it ISN'T x64. I've got a bunch of favorites that are not x64--and I KNOW they sound great. And it really pains me that they're not x64 because to insure maximum efficiency in my x64 environment, I can't be fiddling with bridges and whatnot.

As to the OP, all my current favorite organ instruments are, unfortunately, powered by Kontakt. If there's the odd organ sound you may be looking for, most synths now have some great organ patches that can be tweaked. Zeta 2 has several that I like, as does Massive.

As far as freebies, I believe that the CM disc still carries CMOrg which sounds great, but unfortunately, is not x64 (last I checked), and you now know how I feel about that.

Cheers
-B

ooohhh2 · Post by **ooohhh2** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:01 pm

What's up with jbridge, it will come soon for mac too.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:16 pm

I plan to use organs a lot, right now I mostly use the C3 that comes with Komplete Elements (I think?). I likely would get the NI package as it is close enough to my ears, but I would prefer a modeled instrument instead of sample-based. I have a number of 32 bit plugins I'll have to bridge eventually but I'd really like to get away from that as much as I can, and since I plan to use a lot I don't want a bridge to be constantly in the way. I have no experience with bridged apps so this may be a non-issue eventually, but I am just trying to play it safe.

ooohhh2 · Post by **ooohhh2** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:21 pm

That's exactly what i also thought until i actually tried it myself. There's nothing to worry about with jbridge, just make sure you follow the how to guide. It works seamlessly. You won't notice anything afterwards other than it just works. There are some minor exception, but like 99% plugs i use work with it.

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:25 pm

ooohhh2 wrote: but like 99% plugs i use work with it.

So you have 100 bridged plugins then? Which one doesn't work?

ooohhh2 · Post by **ooohhh2** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:30 pm

It's close. There's alooot of freebie goodies out there in 32 bit only. But honestly i don't remember, which one that was, must be one or two of Antress' old plugins. The new ones are all okay for example.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:14 pm

If we're back to 32 bit, you might look into seeing if you can get a used copy of NI's B4II. I loved this thing because it behaved like a real instrument, and NI even made different digital 'tonewheels' that could be swapped out to give it a different feel. They discontinued it a while back, and near as I can tell, a sample-based version of it now lives in the 'Vintage Organs' instrument from NI.

Cheers
-B

ooohhh2 · Post by **ooohhh2** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:30 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:For a B3, it's VB3 (not 64-bit) with the Amplitube 3 leslie. The VB3 leslie is pretty good, but the AT3 leslie speaker just takes it to another level.

Sounds really interesting. Don't own AT3 though, but it's in my short list.
Another stellar combination would be VB3 through a neo instruments ventilator (hardware). I own it too, but never tried it, since the ventilator is in my live rig. I can't imagine that anything else can get any better than that.
(Sorry, that didn't help the OP further, just for sake of discussing it.)

bailees7irish · Post by **bailees7irish** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:47 pm

wow...noone here uses Organ 3? wtf is wrong with you people?

braj, i love the sound of Organ 3. what's great about it is that it will give you those killer organ sounds, but you can also get lush, ambient pads with it. it is a wonderful plug and well worth the money...

and 64-bit

braj · Post by **braj** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:51 pm

bailees7irish wrote:wow...noone here uses Organ 3? wtf is wrong with you people?

braj, i love the sound of Organ 3. what's great about it is that it will give you those killer organ sounds, but you can also get lush, ambient pads with it. it is a wonderful plug and well worth the money...

and 64-bit

Yeah I was attracted also by the non-traditional possibilities. I think I'll be playing with the demo a lot and look for a used copy. I know jbridge works from everything I hear but until I get a new system and actually try it all out I am not so excited to spend the cash on more 32 bit plugins.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:53 pm

BERFAB wrote:I loved this thing because it behaved like a real instrument

But VB3 behaves even more than the real thing, with the 9-contact simulation and whatnot. B4-II also had incorrect tonewheel tuning and overall inferior Leslie simulation than VB3. All in all, VB3 trumps it by far.

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:47 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
BERFAB wrote:I loved this thing because it behaved like a real instrument
But VB3 behaves even more than the real thing, with the 9-contact simulation and whatnot. B4-II also had incorrect tonewheel tuning and overall inferior Leslie simulation than VB3. All in all, VB3 trumps it by far.

And B4 II had (has…) a terrible, brittle overdrive.

/Joachim

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:12 pm

Spitfire31 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
BERFAB wrote:I loved this thing because it behaved like a real instrument
But VB3 behaves even more than the real thing, with the 9-contact simulation and whatnot. B4-II also had incorrect tonewheel tuning and overall inferior Leslie simulation than VB3. All in all, VB3 trumps it by far.
And B4 II had (has…) a terrible, brittle overdrive.

/Joachim

True that the overdrive was really weird, though sometimes, suprisingly it worked OK in some mixes or on stage with moderate settings.

FM8 can make some nice organs too. Or Fs1R. Or its true nearly any capable synths.

Well there are many different "real" organ sounds, from the venerable Hammonds to church models, including all the farfisa, viscount, lowrey, continental and numerous other models, sometimes very cryptic. So answering the question is a bit difficult.

VB3 is really nice, Organ 3 is nice too ( I'd love to be able lo load custom waves in it ) and well I'd say you never cant get enough organs.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:14 pm

John Holmes...er, sorry wrong thread....
(nevermind)

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:30 pm

Spitfire31 wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
BERFAB wrote:I loved this thing because it behaved like a real instrument
But VB3 behaves even more than the real thing, with the 9-contact simulation and whatnot. B4-II also had incorrect tonewheel tuning and overall inferior Leslie simulation than VB3. All in all, VB3 trumps it by far.
And B4 II had (has…) a terrible, brittle overdrive.

/Joachim

Maybe you guys have it on a technicality. All I know is, the thing came with a boatload of patches that sounded (to me) dead on like the organs they were trying to emulate. From Green Onions to Greenspoon, they were all there, just as I remembered them. And easy to tweak for my mixes.

I do recall that the effects section was quite a bit different than that of a real B3 (or C3), but that just gave it more possibilities.

For me, it's all water under the bridge anyway. I can now pull decent organ patches from any number of sources when I need them, all in x64.

Cheers
-B

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