Saurus or Minimonsta

[Ingonator]

While programming presets on Saurus i also found that for some of those presets the sound quality difference becomes very small

And with some sounds the sound quality difference is huge. Push the boundaries more and Saurus sounds harsh and digital with tons of aliasing. Analog can sound thin, piercing, shrill, but it does not have that aliasing harshness. Anything with lots of aliasing harshness is not accurately emulating an analog counterpart. Saurus does fine within a basic range but go outside that and it doesn't sound like an analog at all. Diva can go much farther into that territory and retain its sonic integrity. So if you like to go there, and I do, then the performance to cpu ratio of Saurus is not so good.

Not to forget that Diva misses some features in comparison to Saurus

And Saurus misses some features in comparison to Diva... and Minimonsta too has features that Saurus does not. Minimonsta can have an individual LFO or ADSR for most of the main parameters. That is a lot of modulation capability not at all possible in Saurus or Diva. Saurus and Diva both only have 2 LFO's. Minimonsta also has preset morphing with realtime control and neither Saurus nor Diva can match that. Minimonsta also has audio in.

Saurus has more waveforms than Minimonsta. Minimonsta has the basic 5-6. Saurus has many when you factor in the pwm for every waveform. Diva has about 20 different waveforms you can choose from across the 4 different osc's. That is a lot of variety too.

I'd say Saurus and Diva are roughly equal in sonic variety at the osc level. Minimonsta is more limited and only has the 24db filter, but it has much more modulation capability with so many LFO's, Env's, and the preset morphing.

Zebra, Tera, Helix etc... these are swiss army knife synths, not Saurus. I'd say Saurus, Diva and Minimonsta are all about equal in their variety in their own way.

Saurus is still at version 1.0 so remaining issues will hopefully be solved in the upcoming updates.
About "swiss army knife" i meant as a VA synth. For a broader range of sounds a combination of Saurus and ElectraX are a great choice IMO. As a single synth Synthmaster could fit into there (besides the ones you already mentioned).

BTW i reported an issue with a strange background noise in Saurus and finally (with some help of Bastiaan) it turned out that for some reason i had used a small amount of the Noise source in one of the oscillators. That problem was solved when setting the corresponding knob to exactly 0.


Ingo

[PietW.]

I like the sound and cpu usage of Saurus, but I love Minimonsta too.

Sort of a quandry, as I alway wished for MM, but then Saurus came along.

Both have a great sound, though they are different.

I wish I could afford both!

Thoughts?

Oh my god these stupid comparisons.
For there is something to try demos.

[xamido]

For Godsake, For Once, please stop the Diva comparison. The question is Saurus or Minimonsta. Why must every synth thread be hijacked by Diva, even one that is so obvious like this one?

It's easy, you just mention which one between those two that you like the most and the reason why. That's it.

[braj]

One consideration is Minimonsta is only 32 bit right now with no guarantee it will be 64 anytime soon (if ever). If I were trying to choose between the two that would influence my decision at least a little.

[Examigan]

Diva replaces both of them.

I wasn't asking about that other synth

[Examigan]

Diva replaces both of them.

The OP has an old cpu which cannot handle Diva...

Right, and I want to use 8-9 instance of whatever synth and have Battery running too

[Examigan]

I like the sound and cpu usage of Saurus, but I love Minimonsta too.

Sort of a quandry, as I alway wished for MM, but then Saurus came along.

Both have a great sound, though they are different.

I wish I could afford both!

Thoughts?

Oh my god these stupid comparisons.
For there is something to try demos.

I have tried them both, but I am asking what others think just to get opinions.

[Examigan]

For Godsake, For Once, please stop the Diva comparison. The question is Saurus or Minimonsta. Why must every synth thread be hijacked by Diva, even one that is so obvious like this one?

It's easy, you just mention which one between those two that you like the most and the reason why. That's it.

Exactly.

[PietW.]

I like the sound and cpu usage of Saurus, but I love Minimonsta too.

Sort of a quandry, as I alway wished for MM, but then Saurus came along.

Both have a great sound, though they are different.

I wish I could afford both!

Thoughts?

Oh my god these stupid comparisons.
For there is something to try demos.

I have tried them both, but I am asking what others think just to get opinions.

Is it so important what others think?

[reusenoise]

Even If you ask better Ducati or Yamaha,someone come up with "Diva can repalace both"

[braj]

I would consider which one covers ground not covered by your current plugins, and your opinion on things like copy-protection used, customer support, initial price, resale value, possibility to buy it used at a reduced price right now. And also what GUI is more comprehensible by you.

[GeorgeZ]

When I demo'd Minimonsta I found the GUI very fiddly... I mean, it doesn't have too much going on (similar to Saurus) but the blue light numbers on the dials made me completely batty. It's just too much. I couldn't work on that all day (not to mention the dials that have blue glow AND red in them...). Sound wise it's not bad, different to Saurus of course, but not bad at all. More of a CPU hit, but nothing to be concerned about.

For the cash, CPU hit and ease of use, and great sound (and for me, the GUI) Saurus would be my choice.

Disclaimer: I am bias to a certain extent however having worked on the beta, so I've spent a lot of quality time with Saurus... just putting it out there so no one can point the finger later saying I'm posting a loaded opinion under the guise of "I'm a happy little user and nothing more". I actually had an opportunity recently to buy Minimonsta for a steal, but I just couldn't get myself to put the cash down on it... it's just so ugly! (If I'm not mistaken it does also come with another GUI, one of those black / grey / white ones as with other Ohmforce plugs... not doing it any favors either )

[xamido]

About the cpu hit,sometimes saurus can hit the cpu pretty hard to. If you have the 4x unison and arranger activated it uses 25% of my cpu in studio one. I've never tried minimonsta so i can only give my assesment for saurus.

[GeorgeZ]

About the cpu hit,sometimes saurus can hit the cpu pretty hard to. If you have the 4x unison and arranger activated it uses 25% of my cpu in studio one. I've never tried minimonsta so i can only give my assesment for saurus.

Ye, it's possible, however, can't say I've ever had it THAT bad

[Examigan]

When I demo'd Minimonsta I found the GUI very fiddly... I mean, it doesn't have too much going on (similar to Saurus) but the blue light numbers on the dials made me completely batty. It's just too much. I couldn't work on that all day (not to mention the dials that have blue glow AND red in them...). Sound wise it's not bad, different to Saurus of course, but not bad at all. More of a CPU hit, but nothing to be concerned about.

For the cash, CPU hit and ease of use, and great sound (and for me, the GUI) Saurus would be my choice.

Thanks George now see... that's what I was looking for. Another set of ears/eyes as I am torn between those 2 synths.