Devs hijack every thread?

[BDeep]

whatdoyado?

make bad jokes

Bad joke it may be, mainly because of the truth in it. Seriously, there are threads that consist of 20% substance, 80% pointing at each other.

[whyterabbyt]

Of course other people won't like what I'm doing. They're called competitors.

no, most of arent. and we're still fed up of seeing the same devs pimping themselves in every possible thread.

[cryophonik]

I do find it a little annoying in some cases, to be honest, but I think that there is a fine line between a developer providing useful and relevant information about their products, and spamming their products. And, that line is probably different for every forum member. Personally, I guess I'd rather deal with a little spam from developers, rather than have them be wary of posting for fear of being viewed as spam.

[Nokenoku]

Could the you post some links to examples?

I mean in some cases, a developer might overdo it and drift into "bold marketing", but in some cases I think it's ok, if a dev recommends his own software (as long as he gives some good reasons, why).
I also think it's ok, when a dev comes into a thread, where some plugins (including his) are discussed, to just point to some features of his software, in which the people in the thread might be interested in.

I think it's ok to advertise the own stuff, as long as you're not doing it in a "my software is better than this other software" way.

[Tricky-Loops]

4damind stop calling me spammer. I'm respectful to you.

Of course other people won't like what I'm doing. They're called competitors (devs, fanboys, shills, you name it).

Oh no, that's the Heaven-on-Earth-Disease...

Don't think that every big company is against you... There are much more ordinary people than competitors who just don't want to see advertisement shows.

[chk071]

I find the daily Oxium threads more than annoying (actually it's not even daily threads, it's just that the OP, of course employee of the company, seems to re-name the thread every time he gets accused of shamelessly advertising his product with a thread full of, what he says, useful information and feature requests). Basically, if i want information about the synth, i go to their website, check the specs listen to audio demos and try the demo and if i like it, i buy it, big deal. And if i have a feature request, i probably would do it in their own forum, which they have as the OP stated...

Don't get me wrong, it's totally alright to announce it here in the forums, and totally ok to discuss it also, but in these threads you feel with every word the penetrance of guerilla marketing of these guys, it's just no good style anymore. At least i found those threads pretty ridiculous...

[george]

Don't think that every big company is against you... There are much more ordinary people than competitors who just don't want to see advertisement shows.

No I don't mean every big company. I mean that there will always be certain devs, fanboys, shills or socket puppets that won't like what I do.

But that's just life.

I think I still have the right to mention and promote our products where I see fit (unless asked by a forum authority to stop doing so).

no, most of arent. and we're still fed up of seeing the same devs pimping themselves in every possible thread.

Easy with the reality distortion field!

Ladies and gentleman, I had enough forum drama today. See you

[tehlord]

I think I still have the right to mention and promote our products where I see fit (unless asked by a forum authority to stop doing so).

You do have the right.

It might be worth mentioning however that you in particular, annoy me with your 'marketing' in other peoples threads and it's put a mental block on me buying any of your products. And I buy a lot of software. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.

No real malice intended, just information for you to chew on and consider/ignore at will.

[aMUSEd]

I have a bigger problem not when devs highjack threads about their own synths, but when they plug in a "what's a good synth" or "your favorite synth" thread... I mean, look, we already know your own stuff is your favorite!

Like this from our spamming George. If he has a good day also with links and stuff
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 95#5041995

Maybe the mods cannot stop him but users can give him (and other devs or spokesman) a idea that they are not welcome.

I'd rather people just gave it a rest tbh. Even if you are irritated by it you do not have the right to speak for the whole forum and all the aggro this causes in certain threads is getting tedious. Much worse than the occasional bit of product promotion from devs.

[Urs]

I don't care as long as they don't talk bollocks about our stuff, like that accusation of "bad optimisation" earlier this year that some people took for granted.

We plug a few products here and there, but the true winner in creating revenue streams is paid advertisement for products that are worth it - as bad as it sounds, it's reality. Forums are great for support, feedback and fun, but they're less useful if one wants to pay employees and stuff. Hence I'm not sure if they're doing themselves a favour.

[_leras]

I don't care as long as they don't talk bollocks about our stuff, like that accusation of "bad optimisation" earlier this year that some people took for granted.

We plug a few products here and there, but the true winner in creating revenue streams is paid advertisement for products that are worth it - as bad as it sounds, it's reality. Forums are great for support, feedback and fun, but they're less useful if one wants to pay employees and stuff. Hence I'm not sure if they're doing themselves a favour.

fwiw, I personally think that you go about it the right way Urs. Offer information, rebut false claims or descriptions of your products and generally encourage interesting discussion about your products.

I also think other companies like camel, fxpansion also handle this well. open, honest candid and informative.

There are some that just derail threads though via spam, constant rebumping, renaming threads constantly, which is bloody annoying and even stops proper discussion of their own products...

[_leras]

I think I still have the right to mention and promote our products where I see fit (unless asked by a forum authority to stop doing so).

You do have the right.

It might be worth mentioning however that you in particular, annoy me with your 'marketing' in other peoples threads and it's put a mental block on me buying any of your products. And I buy a lot of software. I'm sure I'm not the only one either.

No real malice intended, just information for you to chew on and consider/ignore at will.

georg... i.e. None of your synths are a Roland emulation.... yet you were quick to hop in.

[cryophonik]

...n/m.

[t3toooo]

i for myself would never buy the reverb from this developer with the nordic name,for example ,he's popping up on every third thread.

Edit,nevermind.
i realized i already have it.

but there are synth's from one dev that i must read about all the time on kvr he named them like horse,a "famous actress" and "bacteria".

[4damind]

I don't care as long as they don't talk bollocks about our stuff, like that accusation of "bad optimisation" earlier this year that some people took for granted.

We plug a few products here and there, but the true winner in creating revenue streams is paid advertisement for products that are worth it - as bad as it sounds, it's reality. Forums are great for support, feedback and fun, but they're less useful if one wants to pay employees and stuff. Hence I'm not sure if they're doing themselves a favour.

IMO you are some of the most respected developer _because_ you are not such a spammer like some others but have products on the table speaking for his own. It's a different thing to give useful informations or chime-in if some competitors talking bollocks about own products.
But this self promoting in every thread, this sock puppets or shills... Maybe many users have had enough of this...