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braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:51 pm

I'd like to hear some details about the arp. One question: will it output midi or only drive Diva? I would love it if it could do both.

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:53 pm

braj wrote:I'd like to hear some details about the arp. One question: will it output midi or only drive Diva? I would love it if it could do both.

That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?

Urs, about when is this expected to be released?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:55 pm

djanthonyw wrote:That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?

You mean like an arp that drives other VSTs? There is plenty of those.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:55 pm

Urs wrote:
Numanoid wrote:You mean Osc sync wasn't included from the start
Osc Sync is there, lots of it.

I think what Krim means is oscillator phase reset. Which none of the analogue synths we used for reference has.

They prob didnt have quite a few things that are in Diva. Its essential here, feels like the list is very long.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:56 pm

Numanoid wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?
You mean like an arp that drives other VSTs? There is plenty of those.

Built into synths?

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:58 pm

djanthonyw wrote:
braj wrote:I'd like to hear some details about the arp. One question: will it output midi or only drive Diva? I would love it if it could do both.
That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?

Yes, Corona for one that I can recall. It is a good feature for writing in midi improvisations to the piano roll, or adding a sympathetic instrument using the same pattern. I really hope it is possible because it makes the arp much more flexible. the trick with driving the clock via midi pulse notes that U-no LX does would be a great trick too, which would allow CV-Gate-like functionality to help emulate the old synths.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:58 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Nice! Hopefully it's not a crippled vintage style arp. As much as I love the vintage vibe of the synth itself, I'd hate to see essentials like glide/tie and swing left out.

Zebra has it all covered so you would assume so, but I'm always shocked when devs leave out tie in step arp (or the tie doesn't glide). Or when they leave out swing.

+1, especially swing, how can you make grooves without it?

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Aiynzahev wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Nice! Hopefully it's not a crippled vintage style arp. As much as I love the vintage vibe of the synth itself, I'd hate to see essentials like glide/tie and swing left out.

Zebra has it all covered so you would assume so, but I'm always shocked when devs leave out tie in step arp (or the tie doesn't glide). Or when they leave out swing.
+1, especially swing, how can you make grooves without it?

This is also another argument for outputting midi from the arp: you can go and apply a groove to the arp to the piano roll afterwards and get it in perfect time to your custom track grooves.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:00 pm

braj wrote:I'd like to hear some details about the arp. One question: will it output midi or only drive Diva? I would love it if it could do both.

As VST2 is the only format that outputs MIDI this isn't anything we have given much thought yet.

Conceptionally we're implementing every arp mode we've seen in our reference gear. And some features on top of that.

Swing isn't implemented yet, but it's mentioned on a sticky somehwere.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Urs wrote:
Numanoid wrote:You mean Osc sync wasn't included from the start
Osc Sync is there, lots of it.

I think what Krim means is oscillator phase reset. Which none of the analogue synths we used for reference has.

No worries though, it's somewhere on our list

Just as a foot note, it's interesting that the new Moog Minitaur has phase reset

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Numanoid wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?
You mean like an arp that drives other VSTs? There is plenty of those.

Not really, because not all hosts work the same to take advantage of such features. I'm thinking it would be really cool if there was an arp that you could just drag the generated midi off, onto a midi track of your host... similar to how a lot of drum sequencers in plugins work.

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:03 pm

djanthonyw wrote:
Numanoid wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:That would be amazing if it output midi. Does any other arp plugin do this though?
You mean like an arp that drives other VSTs? There is plenty of those.
Not really, because not all hosts work the same to take advantage of such features. I'm thinking it would be really cool if there was an arp that you could just drag the generated midi off, onto a midi track of your host... similar to how a lot of drum sequencers work.

Essentially EZKeys works like that, though it isn't a conventional arp and doesn't let you play the chords in real time, which would be pretty cool.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:08 pm

djanthonyw wrote:Not really, because not all hosts work the same to take advantage of such features. I'm thinking it would be really cool if there was an arp that you could just drag the generated midi off, onto a midi track of your host... similar to how a lot of drum sequencers in plugins work.

Maybe z3ta+ 2 got it?:

Keyboard mag wrote: Z3ta+ 2 ships with 250 arpeggiator patterns. They're derived from MIDI files, and you can load your own MIDI files into the arpeggiator. Some of the patterns are quite cool and may inspire new synth-pop tunes. The patterns are always in 4/4 time, and can't be edited within Z3ta+ 2, but the 2.1 update allows patterns to be dragged and dropped from the arpeggiator directly into a MIDI track in your DAW. This feature is a huge plus for editing patterns that are close but not quite what you need.

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:10 pm

Urs wrote:
braj wrote:I'd like to hear some details about the arp. One question: will it output midi or only drive Diva? I would love it if it could do both.
As VST2 is the only format that outputs MIDI this isn't anything we have given much thought yet.

(Sorry Urs, but you know how I love to say I told you so.)

AdmiralQuality · Post by **AdmiralQuality** » Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:12 pm

Aiynzahev wrote:
Urs wrote:
Numanoid wrote:You mean Osc sync wasn't included from the start
Osc Sync is there, lots of it.

I think what Krim means is oscillator phase reset. Which none of the analogue synths we used for reference has.

No worries though, it's somewhere on our list
Just as a foot note, it's interesting that the new Moog Minitaur has phase reset

Where?

U-He's DIVA is getting a freak'n arp!!!!