new accurate DX7 emulation being developed

[Teksonik]

Mmmmmm, cruft!

You've got a little cruft on your chin there....might want to wipe that off......

[earlevel]

Did the E! board allow the original DX7's to transmit the full velocity range ?

Yes it did, if I recall correctly.

[quayquay17]

Hopefully all the negatives are kept. If the envelops are smoothed, the noise taken out, and the aliasing remedied, whats the point of using it rather than fm7/8?

[mx25]

velocity, key scaling and envelope, have a big effect on FM in DX7.
These values ​​are not linear and difficult to clone.
Without those values​​,or if they are modified or interpreted, is impossible to play correctly the syx file of the DX7.

[Spitfire31]

Did the E! board allow the original DX7's to transmit the full velocity range ?

As I remember it, the E! board has two adjustment settings for keyboard velocity limits: one for the internal (local) velocity (0-127) and another one for MIDI out.

There is also a setting for selecting keyboard velocity scaling, IIRC.

The Grey Matter E! really transformed the DX7 in many aspects.

/Joachim

[Richard_Synapse]

Hopefully all the negatives are kept. If the envelops are smoothed, the noise taken out, and the aliasing remedied, whats the point of using it rather than fm7/8?

There is none, ihmo. Compromises are possible, however. To get close to the DX7 sound it's important that parameters work in the same way, especially velocity and the keyboard tracking which iirc are used in almost every patch. If they deviate only a little, patches will sound different. Most FM synths just use the concept of FM and disregard such details. Of course that's fine too, it opens up a new world of sounds- it just doesn't sound like vintage FM.

Edit: ^Mx25 was faster

Richard

[mx25]

+1

Regarding the velocity
DX7 only accepts values ​​of "0-7" in "key velocity", using the SysEx. commands.

Raising the "output level" of the modulator, the FM explodes in the DX7.
In the original patch yamaha, the values ​​of "key velocity" are almost always around zero.
Zero = no velocity control and therefore there is no possibility of turning up the volume by pressing the key.
Probably the E! Working on "oscillator output level" to adjust the "key velocity" via midi??

[Teksonik]

Did the E! board allow the original DX7's to transmit the full velocity range ?

As I remember it, the E! board has two adjustment settings for keyboard velocity limits: one for the internal (local) velocity (0-127) and another one for MIDI out.

There is also a setting for selecting keyboard velocity scaling, IIRC.

The Grey Matter E! really transformed the DX7 in many aspects.

/Joachim

I just remember that I really wanted an E! board for my DX back in the day but now it all seems so primitive......

[Teksonik]

Hopefully all the negatives are kept. If the envelops are smoothed, the noise taken out, and the aliasing remedied, whats the point of using it rather than fm7/8?

There is none, ihmo. Compromises are possible, however. To get close to the DX7 sound it's important that parameters work in the same way, especially velocity and the keyboard tracking which iirc are used in almost every patch. If they deviate only a little, patches will sound different. Most FM synths just use the concept of FM and disregard such details. Of course that's fine too, it opens up a new world of sounds- it just doesn't sound like vintage FM.

Edit: ^Mx25 was faster

Richard

I guess that since I've owned a DX/TX in the past I'm just not too excited about a 100% accurate clone. Like I said a few posts back other than a handful of signature patches most of the old DX sounds have become rather tired and worn out....

Now a 100% accurate clone of a Roland D-50 ? Hell yes.......(since I've always wanted one and never got around to owning a real one).....

[electro]

Now a 100% accurate clone of a Roland D-50 ? Hell yes.......(since I've always wanted one and never got around to owning a real one).....

Seen Vintage?
http://www.tubeohm.com/TubeOhm/VINTAGE.html

[Teksonik]

Now a 100% accurate clone of a Roland D-50 ? Hell yes.......(since I've always wanted one and never got around to owning a real one).....

Seen Vintage?
http://www.tubeohm.com/TubeOhm/VINTAGE.html

Yes I've seen it but what's that got to do with a 100% accurate clone of a D-50 ?

[syntheticillusion]

i want to see an accurate emulation of d50, jv1080, dw6000/8000 and others but they have to import syx files to be accurate enough for my attention and if you can import sample data from d50/jv1080 along with ram/rom cards then we can import syx/midi files accurately like ensoniq sq80/sq8l vsti emulation, i wish tal-uno-lx used import function for presets, juno-60 can save presets to tape

[Spitfire31]

i want to see an accurate emulation of d50, jv1080, dw6000/8000 and others…

Dream on! Samples are copyrighted, so your only chance would be that Roland surprisingly decides to branch into softsynths. Not likely, I think.

/Joachim

[george]

Now a 100% accurate clone of a Roland D-50 ? Hell yes.......(since I've always wanted one and never got around to owning a real one).....

Since D-50 is sample based, I predict a 100% accurate Roland lawsuit

Back to topic, this new DX7 modeling project seems interesting.

[layzer]

gimmie a 100% emulated Roland D50, an EMU proteus1, a kurzweil 1000PX, an Ensoniq VFX and a Yamaha SY77. not asking much...