KVR Audio

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Wed May 22, 2013 1:49 pm

Do you find this "distant" when using pitch as well as resonance based kicks?

Introspective · Post by **Introspective** » Wed May 22, 2013 2:01 pm

I agree with the OP: Tremor doesn't lend itself to particularly punchy bass patches. But, "horses for courses", as they say. I handle drums with a combination of Tremor (for its *awesome* modulation) and Maschine (for its "crispness"). They compliment each other quite well. You could also use Stylus RMX or any number of other sample-based drum synths.

I do think Tremor can be used to good effect. Example: https://soundcloud.com/jrice/variable-tensions ...but here I was going for a lazy, rounded sound. If I want something snappier, I use Maschine: https://soundcloud.com/jrice/left-behind ...Most of the time, though, I use both.

[shrug]

The thing is, workflow SUCKS with Maschine in Live. :\ (And the Maschine workflow is even worse.)

I'll also agree with whomever mentioned Drummatik. ...I'm on a Mac now, but when I was composing on a PC, that was my go-to kick generator. Really nice.

I'll ALSO also say that kicks are something worth synthesizing in any number of your VSTs: they usually do kicks quite well. I've had success with Diva, Omnisphere, Massive, Surge, ElectraX, Sylenth, and, surprisingly, D-CAM Strobe... which you might think would be very similar to Tremor. :)

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Wed May 22, 2013 2:12 pm

Introspective wrote:I'll also agree with whomever mentioned Drummatik. ...I'm on a Mac now, but when I was composing on a PC, that was my go-to kick generator. Really nice.

I'm not familiar with Drumatic, but have you tried Drumspillage? Or the freeware Minispillage if you just want kicks?

samsam · Post by **samsam** » Wed May 22, 2013 2:21 pm

For Live using Operator for kicks, this tutorial rocks

http://www.noiseisking.com/blogs/news/7 ... h-operator

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:31 am

Minispillage is great for kicks. but not available in the VST format.
Drumatic will be ready for OSX very soon.
Punch is the best for kicks tho, by FAAAR. Except for the Attack parameter of the synth which goes from 0ms to 1ms and misses out on a range of click timbres. Microtonic is the easiest in my opinion, and sounds awesome, but generally requires external processing to bring the best in kicks. again - In my opinion.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:01 pm

sqigls wrote:Minispillage is great for kicks. but not available in the VST format.
Drumatic will be ready for OSX very soon.

Yeah, I recommended it since Drumatic isn't available for Os X, as an alternative.
But will Drumatic be ported to Mac? That's great news, looking forward to it. Have been searching for it, but couldn't get any results, so figured it was out of the question.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu May 23, 2013 4:22 pm

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sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Sat May 25, 2013 10:17 am

TheoM wrote:... metrum is number one.. did you try it? i know, that's dedicated only TO kicks but it's really good...

Was about to check it out when i suddenly had to clean up my undershorts as IT COSTS $200!!!! Jingos, could have warned me to be sitting down... oh my

There's also BazzISM, pretty awesome stuff...

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat May 25, 2013 1:27 pm

boom tchak boom tchak

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat May 25, 2013 1:30 pm

TheoM wrote: I am used to metrum and punch. tremor can't do the kicks of metrum. I can post some if someone is interested and see how close they can get?

Please post some files (WAVs). That's what I've asked you for in the other thread. I assume you will post synthesised kicks only - no samples - as both Punch and Metrum use sample layers and Tremor doesn't.

~Pd~ · Post by **~Pd~** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:22 pm

Here's a kick I was working on in Tremor.

https://soundcloud.com/peterdines/assykick2

Listening back, it might need a bit more sub. I was concentrating on getting an upfront punch.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Sat May 25, 2013 2:45 pm

himalaya wrote:...both Punch and Metrum use sample layers and Tremor doesn't.

Punch can load samples, but why would you, the kicks are so slamming.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat May 25, 2013 3:24 pm

~Pd~ wrote: Listening back, it might need a bit more sub. I was concentrating on getting an upfront punch.

Nice kick! Yeah, you've got a very nice 'peppery' mid-punch there. I've used a similar sound in this beat, although my kick is very different to yours:

Boom tchak 2

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Sat May 25, 2013 7:30 pm

sqigls wrote:
himalaya wrote:...both Punch and Metrum use sample layers and Tremor doesn't.
Punch can load samples, but why would you, the kicks are so slamming.

'Slamming' as those in Tremor?

House Slammin'

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Sat May 25, 2013 8:33 pm

no, as in the default sound in Punch is tighter than that.
tremor can sound nice, but there's a tightness that it just cant deliver.
the envelopes are too floppy or something

maybe the density of the oscillators?

Why do the BD's in Tremor sound so distant?