KVR Audio

jimlau · Post by **jimlau** » Sun May 26, 2013 4:51 pm

"some of it, such as this guy 'solo cello player #2' who started out kind of flabby, needs some extensive EQ, cuts, and like an exciter and send it to a good reverb."

do you have any recommendations in terms of how to best utilize these techniques for a better sound?

jimlau · Post by **jimlau** » Sun May 26, 2013 7:59 pm

Xenobt wrote:I'll second martygras on Garritan Personal Orchestra, I've used it on some tv spots as a lead melody voice, and some folks in the office who sing with the Atlanta Symphony Chorus were very impressed. The brass, not so much!

I also use Miroslav Philharmonik Orchestra layered with it to get a bigger section, and it sounds great by itself too. The lighter Classik version is on sale now at IK or eSoundz for $29, and features two solo oboes and two ensembles with several variations of each. It also has a version of the NICE CSR Hall reverb, which adds a lot. Check it out here:

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/ph ... k-versions

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

this doesn't sound too bad, except fast runs, which I need. anyone ever use this for runs? if so, what articulations?

Tony Ostinato · Post by **Tony Ostinato** » Sun May 26, 2013 8:15 pm

wivi does a nice job, especially on legatos and slurs which most of these others have real trouble with.

Cimbasso · Post by **Cimbasso** » Sun May 26, 2013 8:16 pm

Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..

Yeah, 8 years ago.

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sun May 26, 2013 8:25 pm

Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..

Link? I don't see it.

jimlau · Post by **jimlau** » Tue May 28, 2013 2:58 am

Musical Gym wrote:
Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..
Link? I don't see it.

I think this is it: [Mod edit: As noted/quoted by jancivil below, no, it's not free, nor was it ever.]

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Tue May 28, 2013 3:49 am

jimlau wrote:
Musical Gym wrote:
Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..
Link? I don't see it.
I think this is it: [Mod edit: As noted/quoted by jancivil below, no, it's not free, nor was it ever.]

Looks like they have stuff there that should not be free.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue May 28, 2013 3:56 am

jimlau wrote:"some of it, such as this guy 'solo cello player #2' who started out kind of flabby, needs some extensive EQ, cuts, and like an exciter and send it to a good reverb."

do you have any recommendations in terms of how to best utilize these techniques for a better sound?

the cuts for that patch were somewhat typical. evidently I boosted some high-mids slightly. this was where I started, I automated this following what the part did.

I played around with the exciter to find where to bring the bow edge out and additionally bring the heat or warmth of the voice out. Bringing out odd# harmonics but not in extremis. VSL has good video tutes on these topics.

Some of the Garritan samples are a bit 'tubby' or flabby in the low mids, the low brass, this thing. It seems like care was taken here, and not there. Such as the harps, he loves the harps, don't need as much cut (harps can be kind of thunky, they won't be the easiest things to get a stellar print of, depending)...

Agathodaimon · Post by **Agathodaimon** » Tue May 28, 2013 12:14 pm

jimlau wrote:
Musical Gym wrote:
Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..
Link? I don't see it.
I think this is it: [Mod edit: As noted/quoted by jancivil below, no, it's not free, nor was it ever.]

Thats it ^^

Ridlazz921 · Post by **Ridlazz921** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:15 pm

Does anyone know how to emulate this type of oboe ?

I want that keyboard style, i dont want it to sound realistic, but more like in the video. Like a keyboard trying to sound like an oboe.
Any suggestions ?

Have been looking for this in over a year now

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:53 am

Agathodaimon wrote:
jimlau wrote:
Musical Gym wrote:
Agathodaimon wrote:Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid, oh and biggest plus interface super easy and fast to get down to business..
Link? I don't see it.
I think this is it: [Mod edit: As noted/quoted by jancivil below, no, it's not free, nor was it ever.]
Thats it ^^

So you want a Free Download?

Please not that we will not share any free downloads, EDIROL Orchestral VST is a Paid Download and its against law to share any copyrighted Materials. Get Fully working Version from http://www.roland.com/products/en/HQ-OR/

Agathodaimon wrote: Edirol HD, its free and it's the best VST out there. Honestly, even better than the paid

when did you pay for something, though? that thing was never free. the link to the download is to a blog which was taken down. KVR is not the place for warez.

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:55 am

Tony Ostinato wrote:wivi does a nice job, especially on legatos and slurs which most of these others have real trouble with.

I'll second that. WIVI is in a class by itself.

http://www.wallanderinstruments.com/?mo ... ts&lang=en

HaganeSteel · Post by **HaganeSteel** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:07 am

Edirol Orchestral's oboe is not multi-sampled enough. The further up you go on the keyboard, the faster the vibrato gets, and it is extremely noticeable.

It's worse than on my hardware Roland. Virtually unusable for anything besides video games, and even then...

GPO's oboes are kind of middle of the road. GPO does sound like an old keyboard, but it sounds like a very good old keyboard. Its real strength is in how expressive and diverse it is, not so much how good it sounds.

Like in jancivil's example above, GPO makes doing that sort of thing very easy.

But just for its oboes? It'd be hard to recommend. My favorite oboe comes from Miroslav, but again, hard to recommend for its oboe alone. I'd probably look for a more dedicated library.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:43 am

HaganeSteel wrote:Edirol Orchestral's oboe is not multi-sampled enough. The further up you go on the keyboard, the faster the vibrato gets, and it is extremely noticeable.

It's worse than on my hardware Roland. Virtually unusable for anything besides video games, and even then...

GPO's oboes are kind of middle of the road. GPO does sound like an old keyboard, but it sounds like a very good old keyboard. Its real strength is in how expressive and diverse it is, not so much how good it sounds.

Like in jancivil's example above, GPO makes doing that sort of thing very easy.

But just for its oboes? It'd be hard to recommend. My favorite oboe comes from Miroslav, but again, hard to recommend for its oboe alone. I'd probably look for a more dedicated library.

Miroslav (full sampletank version) is $70 until the 15th, and you get
the other four IK group-buy instruments free. You must download the 15 gig in 30 days...
Cheers

bsl · Post by **bsl** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:16 pm

Ridlazz921 wrote:Does anyone know how to emulate this type of oboe ?

I want that keyboard style, i dont want it to sound realistic, but more like in the video. Like a keyboard trying to sound like an oboe.
Any suggestions ?

Have been looking for this in over a year now

It seems a synth PWM Wave with a smooth (large Q) BandPass Filter centered around 2kHz...
In any case well modulated, with expression

Best Solo Oboe VST?