what key is C minor and F minor?

[Sampleconstruct]

[irony]It doesn't matter, just hit your keys with your forehead and then use autotune (with a minor scale engaged).[/irony]

[murnau]

yes, of course you can use some apps for that like what springs to my mind:

midiScaleChanger from InsertPizHere
Tonmeister from WOK
ChordSpace Playe from Chordspace

[Harry_HH]

The latest comments in this thread hints to the fact that very seldom the
answer to this kind of question is simple: if your basic knowledge of the music theory is very poor, your questions may be "limited" and it may be hard to you understad the answer. Best advice: spend few hours with the basic music theory.

If you need the "instant karma", my 2 cents:
Your original question was "how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor?"
Simple answer: you can use F min and C min in many different arrangements, they song may be several different keys which are "correct". How good the end result will be, depends on you skills and taste.

... and a bit longer answer:
As referred above, the only clue you give are those chords, the cords include
notes C, Eb, F, F, Ab. Most nature choise is to "arrange" (as you say) the song to the key which include those notes. However, you can temporarily sharp or flat any notes in the scale, which leads to the fact that with the parameters you gave,
the key/arrangement of the song can be in theory any, there are countless different possibilities. H.

[jancivil]

can anyone help? how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor?

thanks

as far as the scary meanies up to the music theory forum, do let me represent (since you c**ts, vurt and deb have never so much as arsed yourself once to do one thing for anyone here): look, there is nothing wrong with being a beginner. Everyone starts as one.

the amazing thing here is that you somehow have the notion you're ready to arrange a song, given some 'files' to work with. but you have to go on the internet and ask the very first questions, not quite grasping what a key is. there is no way to sort you properly from such a point. You've been shown a cycle of fifths. The information people are tossing at you is available to you via your search engines. LET ME GOOGLE THIS FOR YOU. And HI, HINK!

Don't kid yourself you're going to "arrange for collab" - do you really want to try and fake it from here? - look some things up and consider that you start from the beginning as with anything else. It's like you want to write a story and you are unsure what a sentence does.

this is the outcome of believing in 'producing', somehow music is something you're entitled to having done no preparation at all. what_the_f**k.

this isn't a person being mean, this is a tiny dose of reality.

[vurt]

at least you used the lower case v, its surprising how many people dont, i think they assume its my name

[jancivil]

yes, of course you can use some apps for that like what springs to my mind:

midiScaleChanger from InsertPizHere
Tonmeister from WOK
ChordSpace Playe from Chordspace

absolutely! use a crutch before you ever took baby's first steps. expect to use one forever, should we worry?

[dreamkeeper]

[Sendy]

yes, of course you can use some apps for that like what springs to my mind:

midiScaleChanger from InsertPizHere
Tonmeister from WOK
ChordSpace Playe from Chordspace

absolutely! use a crutch before you ever took baby's first steps. expect to use one forever, should we worry?

Indeed, the risk I percieve with these apps is that they modify what you're playing to make it "more musical" (or at least, to snap to a rule which is a generalization of what sounds most acceptable (possibly read: tame)) and you're not really aware of what it's doing. It's correcting you but you're not getting any feedback like "no, don't play that note because it's not in the current scale/mode", which can effectively strip any learning from the experience.

Of course, it may help you produce better music at first, but jumping in at the deep end and having a machine swim for you isn't going to expand your horizons as a musician. What they call "teachable moments" pass you by, and it's these experiences that bond us to the music making process.

[jancivil]

When I began, there was no machine to sort anything for you. I would suggest to anyone that thinks this is a boon for you to reflect on this.

You aren't developing your own muscles? Ok, so you're good with being totally weak.

Culturally this is really future shock for me, people totally ready to abdicate to a computer the most basic steps. The results aren't going to stand the test of time; the things by these 'producers' you bring to us to tell you about 'what chords?' are weak and haphazard, shoddy. It's a bit The Time Machine by HG Wells, the results are just going to dwindle...

[Numanoid]

There is no google where you live?

of course you are right, but then again where's the fun for the rest of us?

Hmmm, maybe you are right

[Numanoid]

as far as the scary meanies up to the music theory forum, do let me represent (since you c**ts, vurt and deb have never so much as arsed yourself once to do one thing for anyone here): look, there is nothing wrong with being a beginner. Everyone starts as one.

Yep, but why run to a forum first? That's like's asking somebody else to do the job for you.

When it comes to simple music theory as this, the knowledge have been around for a couple of hundred years already.

That is why FAQ was established so that knowledge achieved can be passed on and drawn on by later people.

But users these days don't wanna drawn on such resources it seems, its much more easy to just go on a forum and request help

[JumpingJackFlash]

how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor

Although jancivil's blunt approach does irritate many people, he is completely correct here.
Do you know what a key is? - Because your post suggests you don't. I'm not even sure whether you mean key or chord... How do you know it's in F minor for example?
This kind of knowledge is a necessary first step before you even start arranging tracks.

So, my advice would be study music theory. There really is no point trying to run before you can walk.
Start with the basics; it may be some time before you're ready to do what you want to do, but learning is part of life. If you want to be good at something, it takes time to master it. There are no short cuts I'm afraid.

When we say "minor" we usually mean "natural minor" - however there's other minor keys as well.

No, there is only one minor key (in which the sixth and seventh notes are variables).
There are however several minor scales.

[murnau]

yes, of course you can use some apps for that like what springs to my mind:

midiScaleChanger from InsertPizHere
Tonmeister from WOK
ChordSpace Playe from Chordspace

absolutely! use a crutch before you ever took baby's first steps. expect to use one forever, should we worry?

thats why i first post a little bit of theory (scales) for the OP and not this apps. maybe you overread my two attempts to help..

[thecontrolcentre]

how do i have to arrange my song for collab when someone sends me 3 files in F minor or C minor

Although jancivil's blunt approach does irritate many people, he is completely correct here.
Do you know what a key is? - Because your post suggests you don't. I'm not even sure whether you mean key or chord...

I thought he meant what key to press on his keyboard.

[satYatunes]

Try this site. You can go through everything in one day.

http://chordmaps.com/