Web-Designers: Does anyone use ExpressionWeb 4?
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- KVRAF
- 7925 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
I've been using flash for years and years. Really it's in the hands of the designer how a page loads, not flash. If you design it for high impact then it will load slow on slower connections regardless if it's designed in html5 or flash. Some advanced flash users pull out all the stops in designing a site which is why it can take awhile to load....Once again that's on the designer not on flash.
If you have even mediocre skills in html zen garden is a godsend for those who still develop static sites. And there are good reasons to develop a static site as opposed to a dynamic one.
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/207/207.css
As you look through the designs remember it's all just one page treaded differently because of the .css loaded into it.
My blog site is drupal http://www.tappermike.com/
I keep it clean and lean for a reason. I used to run wordpress but during a routine update it destroyed my database and everything was left unusable. I've also done professional installations of many portals through the years. Way too numerous to mention. The one I loved the most was xoops.
There's a reason why wordpress is popular amongst businesses and that reason is clients can be idiots but they are the ones that sign the checks. Most businesses don't need to blog. And they owner loves that he has some control after the fact. However if you are looking for attention for your product and want to keep buyers interested then it's really better to simply get a facebook page like Seymour Duncan. You'll get more repeat visitors reading and returning then you would if you posted to a blog on a website that no one visits. It's also a lot tougher to screw up your fb page which cannot be said for portals.
If you have even mediocre skills in html zen garden is a godsend for those who still develop static sites. And there are good reasons to develop a static site as opposed to a dynamic one.
http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/207/207.css
As you look through the designs remember it's all just one page treaded differently because of the .css loaded into it.
My blog site is drupal http://www.tappermike.com/
I keep it clean and lean for a reason. I used to run wordpress but during a routine update it destroyed my database and everything was left unusable. I've also done professional installations of many portals through the years. Way too numerous to mention. The one I loved the most was xoops.
There's a reason why wordpress is popular amongst businesses and that reason is clients can be idiots but they are the ones that sign the checks. Most businesses don't need to blog. And they owner loves that he has some control after the fact. However if you are looking for attention for your product and want to keep buyers interested then it's really better to simply get a facebook page like Seymour Duncan. You'll get more repeat visitors reading and returning then you would if you posted to a blog on a website that no one visits. It's also a lot tougher to screw up your fb page which cannot be said for portals.
- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Thanks for the tips, Mike! The ZenGarden CSS templates look pretty nice...
Nevertheless, I don't need any new templates at the moment, I'm pretty happy with the basic look my homepage, I just want to change some elements.
Unfortunately I wasn't that happy with Scriptly because I'm not the kind of guy who is used to write several hundred lines of source code in text editors (like C++ programmers).
I worked with source code (I even coded some small programs in AMIGA Basic when I was in my teens) but I would be happy about a webdesign program who can help me to change things on my homepage much easier. But I don't need WYSIWYG-only programs like Nvu that make a mess out of my HTML code.
I came across the news that ExpressionWeb 4 is free now, and as I see some web designers here every day, I thought they might have some experiences with it...
Nevertheless, I don't need any new templates at the moment, I'm pretty happy with the basic look my homepage, I just want to change some elements.
Unfortunately I wasn't that happy with Scriptly because I'm not the kind of guy who is used to write several hundred lines of source code in text editors (like C++ programmers).
I worked with source code (I even coded some small programs in AMIGA Basic when I was in my teens) but I would be happy about a webdesign program who can help me to change things on my homepage much easier. But I don't need WYSIWYG-only programs like Nvu that make a mess out of my HTML code.
I came across the news that ExpressionWeb 4 is free now, and as I see some web designers here every day, I thought they might have some experiences with it...
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
Why not simply create a simple design with FrontPage/ExpressionWeb and then make that one usable for stuff like WebsiteBaker or Lepton? Webocton might just be as suitable, but if you want to get "going" rather than scripting, it's more work.
WebsiteBaker and Lepton are also CMS, a bit hard to get into (still trying to wrap my head around it, since I NEED a homepage update), and it's a tad more streamlined than using WordPress as CMS.
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Just took a closer look at ExpressionWeb through some YT vids.
It's pretty much like Webocton in it's basic form. You've got the text editors, correction warnings, code dropdown menus and the likes. Good thing. You also have an overview of your projects, you have a WYSIWYG "browser". Looks fairly simple to use. But if it's really worth the hassle to download/use both the Net Framework 4 and(!) Silverlight - don't know. I rather stick with Webocton and Firefox.
WebsiteBaker and Lepton are also CMS, a bit hard to get into (still trying to wrap my head around it, since I NEED a homepage update), and it's a tad more streamlined than using WordPress as CMS.
EDIT:
Just took a closer look at ExpressionWeb through some YT vids.
It's pretty much like Webocton in it's basic form. You've got the text editors, correction warnings, code dropdown menus and the likes. Good thing. You also have an overview of your projects, you have a WYSIWYG "browser". Looks fairly simple to use. But if it's really worth the hassle to download/use both the Net Framework 4 and(!) Silverlight - don't know. I rather stick with Webocton and Firefox.
- Banned
- Topic Starter
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
I already have NET Framework 4 and Silverlight and ExpressionWeb. But I read that ExpressionWeb is pretty complicated and not so easy to use, that's why I asked for experiences.Compyfox wrote:Why not simply create a simple design with FrontPage/ExpressionWeb and then make that one usable for stuff like WebsiteBaker or Lepton? Webocton might just be as suitable, but if you want to get "going" rather than scripting, it's more work.
WebsiteBaker and Lepton are also CMS, a bit hard to get into (still trying to wrap my head around it, since I NEED a homepage update), and it's a tad more streamlined than using WordPress as CMS.
EDIT:
Just took a closer look at ExpressionWeb through some YT vids.
It's pretty much like Webocton in it's basic form. You've got the text editors, correction warnings, code dropdown menus and the likes. Good thing. You also have an overview of your projects, you have a WYSIWYG "browser". Looks fairly simple to use. But if it's really worth the hassle to download/use both the Net Framework 4 and(!) Silverlight - don't know. I rather stick with Webocton and Firefox.
WebsiteBaker and Lepton are interesting but as I don't have my own server, I don't know how to use them. (I'm pretty sure that I'm not allowed to upload them on the STRATO server). My website is hosted at STRATO, and besides Wordpress they only offer Typo3, Joomla and Drupal (and some others) but not WebsiteBaker and Lepton.
Maybe I could try Drupal...
I need more content for my website, anyway, it's absolutely outdated, and I still haven't uploaded the English version. And my blog -- shame on me, my last post must be from 2 years ago...
- KVRist
- 325 posts since 10 Jul, 2002 from About 3 feet below sea level
I don't know if it's of any use to you but I've recently switched HTML editor. I'm now using Blue Fish, which is an open source editor and I really like it. It's definitely an improvement on what I was using before.
And I totally get why you want your own homepage rather than a Wordpress jobbie.
And I totally get why you want your own homepage rather than a Wordpress jobbie.
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- KVRAF
- 14740 posts since 19 Oct, 2003 from Berlin, Germany
If Strato is still a royal behind in terms of what you can install on their servers, then you're bummed out. Else, Lepton/Website Baker is like Wordpress (in basic form) - a CMS that you can install yourself. It only needs PHP and a SQL database. Just like Wordpress does as well.Tricky-Loops wrote:WebsiteBaker and Lepton are interesting but as I don't have my own server, I don't know how to use them. (I'm pretty sure that I'm not allowed to upload them on the STRATO server). My website is hosted at STRATO, and besides Wordpress they only offer Typo3, Joomla and Drupal (and some others) but not WebsiteBaker and Lepton.
What STRATO offers as "installations" are usually what they know through and through, and offer for those people that don't know how to install pages like WordPress and the likes.
Get in touch with them, ask if you can install any CMS you like - you pay them after all. If they say "No", look for a new page provider. I can recommend Neue Medien Münnich.
Drupal is like WP IIRC.Tricky-Loops wrote:Maybe I could try Drupal...
Same here. Especially since the programmer of my pages was like "meh, let's break the contact - you're on your own". Everything seems disconnected, the layouts are moot, the posts are from way back...Tricky-Loops wrote:I need more content for my website, anyway, it's absolutely outdated, and I still haven't uploaded the English version. And my blog -- shame on me, my last post must be from 2 years ago...
Doing everything yourself just takes too much time.
