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Scales and modes as they relate to phrases SUGGESTION 2014-01-14T22:22:20+00:00 Ladies and Gents; I apologize if I haven't delved deep enough into RapidComposer to do this properly - let me first say that I'm very impressed with RapidComposer so far, and see its potential as a very useful tool in my own writing work. The Mac build sometimes fails to properly switch 'views' (going from editor to editor or back to the main composition window, occasionally hanging). But the question/suggestion I had relates to the way RapidComposer treats phrases as an extension of a given chord. RapidComposer could be an even more powerful tool (at least to me) if a phrase could instead be an extension of the implied scale or mode! (Again, I apologize if I'm just missing a current feature... please point me in the right direction if this is the case). By my understanding, a phrase currently relates to a given chord using the 'note index' values of root-third-fifth, and extra notes (2nds/9ths, 4ths/11ths, etc). This makes sense when dealing with diatonic music, but doesn't allow for the flexibility needed in dealing with modal music, bitonality, or interesting extra/passing notes (obviously those things can come into play once MIDI is imported into your DAW). In diatonic systems like what RapidComposer currently deals in, a phrase is inextricably linked to a chord - 'extra notes' in a phrase that imply 7ths, 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, etc. won't automatically be used unless it's a 7, 9, 11, 13, etc. chord (unless I'm mistaken... so far, this has been the case in my experiments with it, however). WHAT IF a phrase was not necessarily linked to the notes of the chord, but the MODE that the chord implies? Further, what if one could change that mode regardless of the chord? For example, a V7 chord would imply a Mixolydian scale beginning on the Vth degree of the key (or the root of the V7 chord). By then changing the 'mode' of the phrase, one could easily switch up the 'flavour' of the phrase. This may present some challenges, and bring to mind some requirements: i) User dictates the root and mode of the implied scale that is linked to an instance of a phrase (most flexible) OR the mode is always built on the root of the chord (doesn't allow for phrases that rub chromatically with the root of the chord) ii) inversions of a phrase would then be single-note up and down along the scale/mode. (C-E-F#-G in a C lydian mode becomes D-F#-G-A when shifting one note up) iii) no longer linking the phrase to the chord, but rather (initially) to the mode the chord implies (and/or restricting notes only to chord values) - this is an important point; this would allow it to act in the way the RapidComposer currently runs, and allow it the flexibility to change the mode of a phrase. These stipulations still all imply 7 note scales, which may be as far is it can go, but with the linking of phrases to modes rather than chords, RapidComposer would become so much more flexible! What are you thoughts? Navonod123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=319882

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Post by musicdevelopments » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:27 am

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Right!

The phrase will behave depending on how you set up the notes.
It would be useful if the scale is displayed on the master track. This will be implemented in v2.6.

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Attila

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