What tempo to use for Trance or Dance music?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 851 posts since 26 Jan, 2014 from United States of America
Thank you for your replies. You are very helpful!
As of the song- yeah, it has many parts- sometime I would think, "I remember there was another part- what happened to it?" It will get better when Vocals are recorded. It will take care of many parts making them sound like one. I had to leave space for actual instrumental work to not be labeled as commercial vocal trance.
Far as I remember, in 90s, there was Techno, Trance and Dream genres. Dream was more about melodic compositions, Trance focused on sound effects and psychedelic noises. Now days there are too many labels. To me- if you play four on the floor and it is European, you playing Trance. If it sounds American- you play House. It is that simple. When I make composition, I do not try to sound like any style. It is about what synth I decide to use and what sounds I happen to stumble on. I am thinking, "Wow- this sound is pretty cool", so I use it and then I look for sound that works with it. I do not think about fitting in any styles. It is about me and what gives ME that trance feeling. If I don't feel it, nobody will.
I have read the article. Yeah, I have no time to classify the music. All it is about deciding on the tempo and type of drums to use- groovy, rock or four on the floor. I noted that my songs sound the same don't matter what drums I pick. So I giess- there must be Vlada Astral sub genre of Trance.
Doug1978, cool cats may be making that type of groovy music in California, where they legalized the weed. lol.
As of the song- yeah, it has many parts- sometime I would think, "I remember there was another part- what happened to it?" It will get better when Vocals are recorded. It will take care of many parts making them sound like one. I had to leave space for actual instrumental work to not be labeled as commercial vocal trance.
Far as I remember, in 90s, there was Techno, Trance and Dream genres. Dream was more about melodic compositions, Trance focused on sound effects and psychedelic noises. Now days there are too many labels. To me- if you play four on the floor and it is European, you playing Trance. If it sounds American- you play House. It is that simple. When I make composition, I do not try to sound like any style. It is about what synth I decide to use and what sounds I happen to stumble on. I am thinking, "Wow- this sound is pretty cool", so I use it and then I look for sound that works with it. I do not think about fitting in any styles. It is about me and what gives ME that trance feeling. If I don't feel it, nobody will.
I have read the article. Yeah, I have no time to classify the music. All it is about deciding on the tempo and type of drums to use- groovy, rock or four on the floor. I noted that my songs sound the same don't matter what drums I pick. So I giess- there must be Vlada Astral sub genre of Trance.
Doug1978, cool cats may be making that type of groovy music in California, where they legalized the weed. lol.
- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
95% of trance tracks I play have tempo either 138 or 140. This is true for uplifting and tech-trance for sure.
If you are going progressive you may try 136, if you're going hard trance - 142 or more. For psytrance pretty much everything goes, be it 132 or 145.
Rule of the thumb is - make DJs able to play your track as easily as possible and blend it with similiar stuff. Many otherwise nice tracks were dropped just because they have weird tempo or unusual structure / mastering.

If you are going progressive you may try 136, if you're going hard trance - 142 or more. For psytrance pretty much everything goes, be it 132 or 145.
Rule of the thumb is - make DJs able to play your track as easily as possible and blend it with similiar stuff. Many otherwise nice tracks were dropped just because they have weird tempo or unusual structure / mastering.
EDM in USA is going to end just like hard trance in Europe - because in a year or two everyone who listened to it will be deaf.EDM is what's popular in the US now
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
- KVRAF
- 8237 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 851 posts since 26 Jan, 2014 from United States of America
It is important point regarding making music that blends with other songs in the mix. For some reason all my songs less loud than commercial. But that is another topic. This is why I said- I need a tempo so that DJs would not have to change the tempo on their DJ mixers and make song sound like crap. But 140 feels like too much. May be 136.
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- KVRian
- 585 posts since 20 Jun, 2005
Good read indeed.ZenPunkHippy wrote:I should add, most other forms of trance are between 135 and 145. Seems most commercial / club trance is a bit slower these days than it was 10 or 15 years ago, but you could argue it's not really trance.
This recent interview with John '00' Fleming is a good read if you're in to trance:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/features/589 ... ing_trance
Peace,
Andy.
Thanks for the link.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 30 Aug, 2011 from somewhere in universe
Unless they'll find a way to make it even more louderDJ Warmonger wrote:EDM in USA is going to end just like hard trance in Europe - because in a year or two everyone who listened to it will be deaf.
Wonder whether my advice worth a penny? Check my music at Soundcloud and decide for yourself.
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