just play the audio...the "preview feature" is nothing more than someone saying the word "preview" over the audio.stevewisnoski wrote:Where can you access the "preview" feature on that website ?
Can you download music from soundcloud that is selected "downloads disabled" by the owner ?
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- KVRAF
- 1987 posts since 29 Apr, 2010 from NYC
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- KVRAF
- 44194 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
stevewisnoski wrote:Where can you access the "preview" feature on that website ?
Works a treat.Aloysius wrote:There is a way to make them safe and listenable.
One site I came across had songs streaming but with the word 'preview' spoken over it at odd intervals.
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 37 posts since 27 Oct, 2014
Yes, I've heard this before, how can one do that to their own material ?
Steve Wisnoski
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- KVRAF
- 44194 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Grab a microphone and make a recording of yourself saying 'preview'. Then just mix it in with your track as you see fit.stevewisnoski wrote:Yes, I've heard this before, how can one do that to their own material ?
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
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- KVRian
- 750 posts since 30 Aug, 2011 from somewhere in universe
Or you can just insert random bleeps, white noise, audio drop-outs or whatever will make it uncomfortable to listen to music.Aloysius wrote:Grab a microphone and make a recording of yourself saying 'preview'. Then just mix it in with your track as you see fit.
Wonder whether my advice worth a penny? Check my music at Soundcloud and decide for yourself.
re:vibe and Loki Fuego @ Soundcloud
re:vibe and Loki Fuego @ Soundcloud
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- KVRAF
- 1800 posts since 10 Feb, 2007
This does it for you:Loki Fuego wrote:Or you can just insert random bleeps, white noise, audio drop-outs or whatever will make it uncomfortable to listen to music.
Voxengo Beeper
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- KVRist
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Thanks to all for your thoughts on this issue, good luck.
Steve Wisnoski
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- KVRian
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yeah, that's the thing... it only takes 1 person to package up whatever complex method exists into something with a GUI, and now anyone can do it. not surprised these exist.Chapelle wrote:I have to disagree here. Typing "soundcloud download" into Google, which brings up plenty of sites where you just have to type in a URL, or installing a browser plugin like FlashGot isn't hard to do or complex at all.chroma wrote:nowadays, it's a _lot_ harder to do... soundcloud, for instance, streams through its own player afaik - there is never a complete track anywhere on your hard drive. so you have to use more complex methods (which i won't get into, not looking to give people ideas).
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- KVRist
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Just in case anyone is interested in this thread, here is the response from soundcloud regarding this topic.
Hi Steve,
We do our upmost to ensure the security of content hosted with us at SoundCloud. If there is a particular website you have come across which you are concerned with, please do report it to us by giving us a link to the website.
We'll do our best to explain why it is currently possible for these sites to exist (and why we are not able to shut down these sites) and how we hope to improve the security of content hosted with us at SoundCloud.
SoundCloud uses the most widely supported streaming protocol to ensure your sounds can be played everywhere, by everyone, across the web. When someone hits play on a track, the technology behind this streaming protocol is put into action to make sure your track can be played. By using a streaming technology which is widely supported, we can make sure that your content is playable on all devices, and browsers.
Websites, like the one you reported, are exploiting vulnerabilities which are inherent in this streaming technology, which allows them to rip the stream and provide it for download elsewhere. This means that they are not downloading the original file you have uploaded with us, but instead the streamed audio (which is 128 kbps). This is the downside to using a system which allows you to be heard by everyone, everywhere.
There are other streaming protocols which are considered to be more secure, but sadly, they are not as widely supported. By switching the streaming protocol we use, your content would not be playable on certain browsers or devices, preventing people from being able to play your tracks. We are researching alternative streaming technologies to understand how secure they are, how well supported they are, and whether they can reliably stream content. We hope the work being done in this area will allow us to provide the most reliable, widely supported and secure means of streaming content. Once these technologies are more widely supported, we will be in a better position to change the streaming technologies we use.
While we are doing all we can to improve this situation, there are a number of measures you may want to consider to prevent unauthorized downloads of your content. While we cannot guarantee that this will stop these sites from accessing your content without your permission, it will put you in the best position possible to prevent people from downloading content without your consent.
- If you have not done so already, disable downloads on your tracks
- Disable app playback, so that your track will not be playable outside of the SoundCloud platform and our own apps (i.e. the official SoundCloud iOS and Android apps)
As these websites are not hosted or controlled by SoundCloud, we technically do not have any means to take them down. What we would normally do is try and contact the owner of such a website (if they provide any contact information) and/or the company hosting the website and request they shut down the service/website. That being said, we unfortunately cannot guarantee that the third party will comply with our request.
All the best,
Ed
SoundCloud Trust & Safety Team
Hi Steve,
We do our upmost to ensure the security of content hosted with us at SoundCloud. If there is a particular website you have come across which you are concerned with, please do report it to us by giving us a link to the website.
We'll do our best to explain why it is currently possible for these sites to exist (and why we are not able to shut down these sites) and how we hope to improve the security of content hosted with us at SoundCloud.
SoundCloud uses the most widely supported streaming protocol to ensure your sounds can be played everywhere, by everyone, across the web. When someone hits play on a track, the technology behind this streaming protocol is put into action to make sure your track can be played. By using a streaming technology which is widely supported, we can make sure that your content is playable on all devices, and browsers.
Websites, like the one you reported, are exploiting vulnerabilities which are inherent in this streaming technology, which allows them to rip the stream and provide it for download elsewhere. This means that they are not downloading the original file you have uploaded with us, but instead the streamed audio (which is 128 kbps). This is the downside to using a system which allows you to be heard by everyone, everywhere.
There are other streaming protocols which are considered to be more secure, but sadly, they are not as widely supported. By switching the streaming protocol we use, your content would not be playable on certain browsers or devices, preventing people from being able to play your tracks. We are researching alternative streaming technologies to understand how secure they are, how well supported they are, and whether they can reliably stream content. We hope the work being done in this area will allow us to provide the most reliable, widely supported and secure means of streaming content. Once these technologies are more widely supported, we will be in a better position to change the streaming technologies we use.
While we are doing all we can to improve this situation, there are a number of measures you may want to consider to prevent unauthorized downloads of your content. While we cannot guarantee that this will stop these sites from accessing your content without your permission, it will put you in the best position possible to prevent people from downloading content without your consent.
- If you have not done so already, disable downloads on your tracks
- Disable app playback, so that your track will not be playable outside of the SoundCloud platform and our own apps (i.e. the official SoundCloud iOS and Android apps)
As these websites are not hosted or controlled by SoundCloud, we technically do not have any means to take them down. What we would normally do is try and contact the owner of such a website (if they provide any contact information) and/or the company hosting the website and request they shut down the service/website. That being said, we unfortunately cannot guarantee that the third party will comply with our request.
All the best,
Ed
SoundCloud Trust & Safety Team
Steve Wisnoski