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arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:07 pm

I want 9.

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:09 pm

So, will this break DAWs and Steam games though? I'm not sure jumping on the Win10 bandwagon will be very smart at first.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:15 pm

arkmabat wrote:So, will this break DAWs and Steam games though? I'm not sure jumping on the Win10 bandwagon will be very smart at first.

All DAWs I have (and I have several) are running fine in the latest Technical Preview. I have not STEAM on that computer, but I read something about the last release breaking compatibility. However things are expected to be solved with the January Technical Preview (which will be available tomorrow).

From now on, we will have a newly Technical Preview each month, until release.

To sum it up: You can expect very good retro compatibility from Microsoft, as it is usual.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:19 pm

Has there been any word on a release date yet?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:20 pm

No, but I don't think it will be ready before Fall. But certainly around for Christmas

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:00 pm

Hope so.

Redukt · Post by **Redukt** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:40 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:
SODDI wrote:Why? Because I'm poor, and Microsoft OS upgrade prices are insane.

Not to single you out personally, but why keeps everyone saying that Microsoft's update prices are "insane"?

I bought Win 7 Pro when it came out for around 50$, same price for Win 8.1 Pro a few weeks ago...Win 7 Pro can be bought easily for around 20-25$ these days - very reasonable prices IMHO...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:58 pm

It may be but one might be so stretched that even $25 could be the difference between food on the table and getting a new OS.

Redukt · Post by **Redukt** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:27 pm

Here we go...i already regret that last post...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:29 pm

arkmabat wrote:I want 9.

Windows platform 9 (and three quarters) was only issued to non Muggles

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:11 pm

There's a lot to Windows 10. One thing that's really good news is they've taken a shine to desktop users, gamers and builders again. The PC is the number 1 computer in the marketplace once again, with tablet sales ever shrinking. We don't even own one, and don't intend to. We have big self-built tower PCs.

Here is a somewhat more comprehensive article where you can read about the upgrade, Cortana, Spartan, DX12 (50% speed improvement for existing hardware is HUGE), battery life improvements, 4K and 8K monitor support, Surface Hub, Hololens:

http://www.maximumpc.com/everything_we_ ... ws_10_2015

If you look at tech in terms of environmental footprint, the worst offenders are the devices that cannot be recycled. Yes, we have a long way to go in recycling, but with a PC you can replace parts, repurpose parts, recycle parts. Even with a big notebook you can do a lot. But once we get to the thin stuff - ultrabooks, tablets, and smart phones - nothing can be recycled except the battery - and usually it isn't even removed. These are designed for the landfill.

The greenest choice is a self-built PC. Long live the PC, and long live the Windows desktop.

By the way, we all picked up 4 copies of Windows 7 at $50 for Home and $99 for Pro when it came out too. But it's a lot more expensive now. Too expensive. That will change. Unfortunately, I don't think you'll be able to install Windows 10 on multiple computers, like you can with Windows 7. I think it will be cheap though. Free is undeniably great news for the masses.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:17 pm

Seriously, where did you folks find MS operating systems for $50?? Last year I looked all over. MS wasn't selling 7, and 8 was too expensive. Online retailers were either above $150 or selling questionable OEM versions.

Why is MS skipping the number 9 anyway? Is that yet another way they're trying to catch up with Apple?

Windows 8.1 isn't bad. The programs list isn't much more broken than the Start menu shortcut system always was. My only complaint is the way file operation interruption dialogs appear BEHIND everything in the z-order. WTFF??? Everything else about it is Windows as it always has been.

Redukt · Post by **Redukt** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:42 pm

This is from the german eBay site where i bought mine:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Microsoft-Window ... 3f450926e7

About 37$, worldwide delivery. Win 7 also available, about 27$.

You'll get no DVD of course, just a serial - but you can easily download the installation files from the MS homepage.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote: Why is MS skipping the number 9 anyway?

Speculations are that they chose to call it 10, because programs, which have been sloppily programmed could confuse the Windows 9 ID with a Windows 95, or Windows 98 ID, because obviously that's how some programs detect what system it runs on, and they only detect the first number, so they chose the number 10 to avoid lack of compatibility with these programs, as they refuse to run on 95 or 98. I have no idea, and can't judge if that's correct, but that's what i read on a couple of sites. Obviously some programs don't even use the codename identifier to detect the system.

Gonga · Post by **Gonga** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:51 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:Seriously, where did you folks find MS operating systems for $50?? Last year I looked all over. MS wasn't selling 7, and 8 was too expensive. Online retailers were either above $150 or selling questionable OEM versions.

Why is MS skipping the number 9 anyway? Is that yet another way they're trying to catch up with Apple? Windows 8.1 isn't bad. The programs list isn't much more broken than the Start menu shortcut system always was. My only complaint is the way file operation interruption dialogs appear BEHIND everything in the z-order. WTFF??? Everything else about it is Windows as it always has been.

Yeah, the pop-up behind the current window is a real PITA.

When MS releases a new OS they have often offered a discount for first-adopters. I got Windows 8 for $29 the same way. And Windows 7 was $50 when it first came out.

Windows 8 is, in fact, buggier than Windows 7. I think it has more complexity and more code. For example, every Windows 7 machine I maintain (4) runs OneDrive flawlessly. Every Windows 8 machine I maintain (4) has severe bugs running OneDrive. There are other examples too, and after a couple years of it, I've started down-grading machines to Windows 7 and in each case I'm very very glad I did. Windows 7 is the best quality Windows OS of all time imo.

Win 10 to be a free upgrade for Win 7/8 users