UVI - for the record

[aMUSEd]

You're talking about Arturia's new system? I actually purchased an Arturia product because they switched to the new system.

OK, let me rephrase, not like Arturia's OLD system

But Arturia's old system was eLicenser.

[DrumAddict]

It's nice it works for you.

But for me PACE is a no-go.
Witch makes UVI a no-go.

At least as long as they don't provide any alternatives to PACE.

would you describe why its for you no-go ?

and please an professional answere , not such things like i have read or i have heard !

[goldenanalog]

I just scored the UVI Organ yesterday - I bought a couple of aditional iLok's today so I can run the (currently on-sale) $50 organ soft concurrently on (3) different machines!

I'm planning on running it on (2) machines at the same time w/a spare type 1 iLok around JIC -

From what I read a while ago: The deal is that a lot of the system calls to the iLok are nowadays made at start-up - as long as you don't remove the iLok during the software's runtime (changing the system's state) then the iLok's resource demand at runtime on your system is theoretically minuscule - in practice: I've had zero identifiable problems with any software requiring an iLok on a port, and I have probably 30+ softs where an iLok is required.

[Dasheesh]

I thought it was cool and tried to demo it a year or two ago. It bricked my mac. I had to rebuild from the ground up. Game over. I got a feeling it was this dongle BS. I just didn't know what that was at the time. Don't do dongs.

[goldenanalog]

I run a couple of UVI products - haven't had any problems here.

[sfd]

I just scored the UVI Organ yesterday - I bought a couple of aditional iLok's today so I can run the (currently on-sale) $50 organ soft concurrently on (3) different machines!

I'm planning on running it on (2) machines at the same time w/a spare type 1 iLok around JIC -

From what I read a while ago: The deal is that a lot of the system calls to the iLok are nowadays made at start-up - as long as you don't remove the iLok during the software's runtime (changing the system's state) then the iLok's resource demand at runtime on your system is theoretically minuscule - in practice: I've had zero identifiable problems with any software requiring an iLok on a port, and I have probably 30+ softs where an iLok is required.

If you and others are happy with iLok that's nice.

But that's not the issue.

Point is that UVI is not selling me anyhting. Not because of their products but because of PACE.

If UVI offered an alternative (as for example XILS-Lab do) they would at least have one more potential customer. And maybe, just maybe, it's a little more then just one.

[Doc Brown]

I recently bought UVI beat boxes and installed the latest version of the ilok manager. Installed the license and everything was fine until I opened it in Reaper.

My system literally went from scanning plugs on opening the project to "Windows is shutting down"... And that's what it did, my computer literally shut down. I am running Windows 7 service pack 1, i7 processor, 16 gigs of ram, latest version of Reaper.

I thought it was just a weird fluke so I tried again and this time my project opened and all was great until I went to close the project "Windows is shutting down" and it shut my computer down. Literally turned off as if I went to the start menu and shut it down manually.

I made sure everything was the latest version as far as the pace license manager software. I can play the UVI beat box stand alone but something goes drastically wrong when I load it in Reaper. I tried a third time and the same result on closing the project. I haven't loaded it in Reaper since and Reaper and my computer haven't had an issue since.

I don't know if it's the pace license manager or the UVI software that's causing the problem but it's unusable at this point. How does software just shut down my computer?

I want to like it and use it but there's a huge problem somewhere and my system and Reaper is astonishingly solid and stable until I installed this. Bummer. No more UVI...

[DrumAddict]

If you and others are happy with iLok that's nice.

But that's not the issue.

Point is that UVI is not selling me anyhting. Not because of their products but because of PACE.

If UVI offered an alternative (as for example XILS-Lab do) they would at least have one more potential customer. And maybe, just maybe, it's a little more then just one.

where are your professional answere of the question i asked you earlier ? whats the problem you have with your PACE Syndrom ?

[afcollett]

Love my ilok, I'm an apple die hard too, I really find all the bashing juvinile. If something doesn't' work for you just move on.

[thenumber23]

I remember having BSOD with very old versions of PACE, so I chose to avoid any product using that for many years. When the UVI stuff came along, I decided to give it another try (the dongle version). The initial install and first product I authorized with it had some hiccups (not BSOD, just extra steps and reboots). Since then, every additional product I've installed has worked smoothly.

My big concern with PACE isn't the fact it's dongle based, but it's another company added to the mix and if something goes wrong, there is the risk that PACE will blame it on UVI or vice versa. Also, there's a risk that PACE won't support new OS'es, or UVI will drop PACE leading me to be stuck in a strange situation. In fact, all of these things (and worse) have happened in PACE's history.

So, I risk getting screwed, but I decided it was worth the risk and I'm having a blast using UVI's products (including some Gospel Musicians UVI libraries which adds yet another company to the mix).

[robotmonkey]

for some people (like me) its the principle more than concern about the system (though there is that). its adding a completely unnecessary (for the functioning of the product) layer that introduces potential problems. it serves zero benefit to the user and under the very best circumstances, does nothing at all.

Last time I looked at computer running PACE Licensing Service, it was the 10th on resource usage out of 50 or so background processes running at the time. I'd say it's pretty bad. And PACE service is constantly running weather you are using any products that need it or not.

[TwoToneshuzz]

It's funny the wildly deverse experience with the iLok, though the only concrete example where windows just shut down, with Reaper is the only example that could merit a serious thumbs down to iLok.

If iLok or eLicenser or other third party dongle based copy protection schemes weren't there, what then would the developers that use this system of digital rights protection do to replace it? Seems to me if the third partys like PACE that produce these systems because they have more resources to keep things running smoothly and up to date..

Right now I have at least 5 diffrent digital rights protection systems working smoothly. Keyfile Valhalla Reverb, U-he's system, NI's Service center, iLok, iLicenser.. dongle based seems like it's the only one where you can have several locations and move your authorisations around without problem. Perhaps that's the issue, when you don't move your authorizations you don't need the portability... Higher end users need it...

I've been using software for long enough to say it is a non issue for me at this point..

My main wish from software is that it gets improved and bugs get corrected in a timely fashion.

[fatbenjamin]

I have never had to use an iLok dongle for any of my UVI products. I just use the licence software and have never had a problem.

[EvilDragon]

dongle based seems like it's the only one where you can have several locations and move your authorisations around without problem.

No, not really. Keyfile solutions (unless they're C/R) can do that as well. For example, u-he system is keyfile as well. And all u-he plugins are portable and self-contained, so you can simply copy the u-he plugin folder to another computer and it will work.

[TwoToneshuzz]

dongle based seems like it's the only one where you can have several locations and move your authorisations around without problem.

No, not really. Keyfile solutions (unless they're C/R) can do that as well. For example, u-he system is keyfile as well. And all u-he plugins are portable and self-contained, so you can simply copy the u-he plugin folder to another computer and it will work.

I suppose it is, but if you are using someone else's computer it maybe a problem to install on their system if you don't have admin permissions.