How to hire a singer?

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If you pay a vocalist, than you owe them nothing more. Like you owe nothing more to the pizza delivery, that feeds you, while you're working. Both (the pizza and the vocalist) are ingredients in the product that you produce.

The vocalist spend their time at your disposal, and get rewarded for that. Whether you use that time to record something average to never be released, make a hit record that'll bust youtube (because of the exceptional vocals), waste that time doing unsatisfactory takes or just feed them your tea while you stare at their tits — that's entirely up to you.

If they think otherwise, advise them to counsel a lawyer. Law works even if no contract was signed.

Mentioning the vocalist in the credits will certainly be polite.
AirJordan wrote:So, once I've contacted the person and he/she agrees to be featured, what do I do?
Make sure they can really sing. Asking for link to a record where you can hear their voice is essential.
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How to hire a singer ?

Pick up the phone :wink:
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creaze wrote:If you pay a vocalist, than you owe them nothing more. Like you owe nothing more to the pizza delivery, that feeds you, while you're working. Both (the pizza and the vocalist) are ingredients in the product that you produce.

The vocalist spend their time at your disposal, and get rewarded for that. Whether you use that time to record something average to never be released, make a hit record that'll bust youtube (because of the exceptional vocals), waste that time doing unsatisfactory takes or just feed them your tea while you stare at their tits — that's entirely up to you.

If they think otherwise, advise them to counsel a lawyer. Law works even if no contract was signed.

Mentioning the vocalist in the credits will certainly be polite.
AirJordan wrote:So, once I've contacted the person and he/she agrees to be featured, what do I do?
Make sure they can really sing. Asking for link to a record where you can hear their voice is essential.
Yes, this is true for a typical session singer. They are not permanent members of the project/band and only paid for the work they offer. This is only a bit more complicated for a collaboration or where the singer/lyricist becomes a part of the project/band.
Anyway, as I wrote before.. the easiest way is to use some of this platforms where session singer can be hired. I remember it's started often from about $70 and goes up to $200 and more (depends if they offer also the writing of lyrics).
Unfortunately it seems that nobody has used such platforms, this could enlighten us a bit if they provide some form/prepared contract or if there are some additional charges.
If the thread starter is interested it would be better to directly ask for experience with hired session singers from internet platforms.

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4damind wrote:
creaze wrote:If you pay a vocalist, than you owe them nothing more. Like you owe nothing more to the pizza delivery, that feeds you, while you're working. Both (the pizza and the vocalist) are ingredients in the product that you produce.

The vocalist spend their time at your disposal, and get rewarded for that. Whether you use that time to record something average to never be released, make a hit record that'll bust youtube (because of the exceptional vocals), waste that time doing unsatisfactory takes or just feed them your tea while you stare at their tits — that's entirely up to you.

If they think otherwise, advise them to counsel a lawyer. Law works even if no contract was signed.

Mentioning the vocalist in the credits will certainly be polite.
AirJordan wrote:So, once I've contacted the person and he/she agrees to be featured, what do I do?
Make sure they can really sing. Asking for link to a record where you can hear their voice is essential.
Yes, this is true for a typical session singer. They are not permanent members of the project/band and only paid for the work they offer. This is only a bit more complicated for a collaboration or where the singer/lyricist becomes a part of the project/band.
Anyway, as I wrote before.. the easiest way is to use some of this platforms where session singer can be hired. I remember it's started often from about $70 and goes up to $200 and more (depends if they offer also the writing of lyrics).
Unfortunately it seems that nobody has used such platforms, this could enlighten us a bit if they provide some form/prepared contract or if there are some additional charges.
If the thread starter is interested it would be better to directly ask for experience with hired session singers from internet platforms.
If you look for troubles, leave the copyright contract undone with the IR partners.
If the song will have commercial succes, those partis who got just the "normal session payments" can as the court to moderate the compensation. The final result depends then on the country and on the court.

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4damind wrote:
creaze wrote:If you pay a vocalist, than you owe them nothing more. Like you owe nothing more to the pizza delivery, that feeds you, while you're working. Both (the pizza and the vocalist) are ingredients in the product that you produce.

The vocalist spend their time at your disposal, and get rewarded for that. Whether you use that time to record something average to never be released, make a hit record that'll bust youtube (because of the exceptional vocals), waste that time doing unsatisfactory takes or just feed them your tea while you stare at their tits — that's entirely up to you.

If they think otherwise, advise them to counsel a lawyer. Law works even if no contract was signed.

Mentioning the vocalist in the credits will certainly be polite.
AirJordan wrote:So, once I've contacted the person and he/she agrees to be featured, what do I do?
Make sure they can really sing. Asking for link to a record where you can hear their voice is essential.
Yes, this is true for a typical session singer. They are not permanent members of the project/band and only paid for the work they offer. This is only a bit more complicated for a collaboration or where the singer/lyricist becomes a part of the project/band.
Anyway, as I wrote before.. the easiest way is to use some of this platforms where session singer can be hired. I remember it's started often from about $70 and goes up to $200 and more (depends if they offer also the writing of lyrics).
Unfortunately it seems that nobody has used such platforms, this could enlighten us a bit if they provide some form/prepared contract or if there are some additional charges.
If the thread starter is interested it would be better to directly ask for experience with hired session singers from internet platforms.
In legal terms, what you are describing is "work for hire". Those are the only circumstances under which the producer of a creative work product lays no claim of ownership to their own work. You need to get that in writing ahead of time.
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You could get them to stand on a box or something but probably easier just to lower the microphone :p

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deastman wrote:In legal terms, what you are describing is "work for hire". Those are the only circumstances under which the producer of a creative work product lays no claim of ownership to their own work. You need to get that in writing ahead of time.
Yes, this is "work for hire".. a "session singer" because it's only hired for a session. But it must not be limited for only one session, it can also be a hired singer for live gigs, a complete album etc.
Typical for such singers are also background singers.. very often you don't know about such singers on an album, they are not listed in the credits etc.

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